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I know this is older news but I decided to bring it out again. My senator got over 200 letters from my family and friends , militia members and a small hunting group opposing the signing of this anti 2nd amendment treaty. Her name is on the list of 51 senators who vowed to oppose it if asked to ratify it. I was surprised as she is a democrat but can see she does not follow Levin around as her vote splits my state on every gun issue. Levin is for banning all pistols(he has introduced over 40 bills to do so) Stabinow has opposed them. Both are Democrats. I see there may be hope for the democratic party if enough conservatives can get entrenched there. My fear is reflected in the link article. Will they just wait until Obama is re elected? My guess is we will see this treaty surface again.

I have a lot of liberal pro-second amendment friends. While this issue does fall fairly well along party lines, there is a significant overlap on the liberal side.

it's been pretty much dead since the chain emails started spreading it.

it wasn't real...it was like a fake...

why do i try. yes the UN is going to invade america and STEAL YURRR GUNZ

Its a non-issue in any case, as the high court ruled that treaty obligations can't override the constitution like a century ago.

The paranoia about this thing rides on wholesale ignorance of exactly how treaties work, and of the UN in general. Treaties are agreements between governments, and they have no suction when it comes to holding citizens to the whims of any outside authority. Plus, the senate has to pass treaties with a 2/3 majority vote, which obviously isn't going to happen. Not that it would matter even if it did for the afore mentioned reasons.

This is all just dumb.

It may be dumb, but it never stops antis from trying to back door any anti gun act they think they might get away with.

It would be poor form to think it won't be attempted.

The UN is very disorganized and stupid. They had Iran and syria on two prominent guns and rights panels. That sort of shows how useless the UN really is. but we will still fund and quote them, in spite of their pointlessness.

Good for them. I'm not in the nra.

Other people love shyte like this too and they get donations.

Opportunism isn't going away. For either side of the argument.

no one actually supports for the UN making decisions for the united states. secondly, the bill this stupid bullshit chain email was started from was a ban on selling assault weapons and the like to other countries.