racism

[gla22]

[The Dharma Bum]

Do you reject dehumanization?

Because that is what you are doing when you laugh at someone or stereotype them according to their racial characteristics.

[exploited]

Dharma, please stop projecting your racist tendencies on everyone else. Your desperation to prove that you are "clean" of racism is very much like the extremity seen in former alcoholics or drug addicts against the drug that destroyed them. They evolve an "enlightened" philosophy that condemns these drugs absolutely, because they were too weak to resist and moderate their use. Similarly, homophobic people tend to be aroused by pictures of same-sex erotica - this arousal stimulates self-loathing, which in turn radicalizes their opinions.

The truth is, you are racist as hell, so you assume everyone is the same and must follow the same philosophy as you in order to be "enlightened." That simply isn't the case, and your own ignorance of your behavior suggests you have a long ways to go in order to self-actualize

[The Dharma Bum]

It is incredible beyond belief to see that someone wants to defend the telling of racist jokes and racial sterotypes by portraying someone who points out the dehumanizing aspects of such as a "secret racist".

Do you actually think that argument is convincing in any way? It's ridiculous. You need to come to terms with the racism that is embedded in this culture, see it for what it really is, and reject it.

The fact that you see blatant racism as entertainment shows clearly the very same lack of self awareness you accuse me of. Your attitude toward me and my views is simply a rationalization of the social conditioning you are too afraid to reject. Deep down you know it is a wholesale rejection of the values that form the basis of industrial civilization and you will avoid that at all costs.

[The Dharma Bum]

Also I challenge someone to produce a link where I claim to be "enlightened" in any way. You can't because that is some shit you just made up to make yourself feel better about your shitty viewpoint.

The truth is I don't believe that I am "enlightened" in anyway, quite the opposite actually. I was able to escape much of the effects of social conditioning because of the simple luck of having had horrible socialization while growing up. I've been trying to understand how the world works for nearly 50 years because of this.

You can listen to me or not, your choice.

[exploited]

See, this is a perfect embodiment of my drug analogy. Is cocaine good for you? No. Is it good for society? No. Is it nonetheless entirely possible for a person to use cocaine from time to time, while not hurting himself or others in any significant way, simply for the sake of amusement? Of course. The people who argue otherwise are weak and damaged people, who seek solace from their weakness to cocaine by adopting abstinence philosophies, condemning those who can handle it, dismissing the possibility of moderate use, etc.

You are simply protecting your own inability to resist racism while being exposed to it. The rest of us can laugh at an offensive joke because we are capable of separating reality from stereotype; as a known racist, this is difficult for you, because you haven't developed fully, and are still stuck in juvenile self-loathing. You hate your own racist tendencies, and so ask that everyone else change so you don't have to confront your personal failings.

When you are ready to take the next step, we'll be here for you.

[The Dharma Bum]

The only problem you have is that causal racism is not harmless at all. It perpetuates a dehumanized view of people of certain races in a society that is highly racially polarized. It's not harmless fun between individuals, it is a conditioned social behavior that is intended to create social cohesion among the dominant racial group in modern society.

Do you also find racial profiling and slavery to be harmless activities, equivalent to avoiding stress? Because that is clearly the purpose of both racism and recreational drug use.

Why don't you try actually thinking for a change?

[The Dharma Bum]

Your arguments are all based on maintaining a collective false perception of reality.

[gla22]

[The Dharma Bum]

I see you have been reading Freud.

Well, that's where we disaqree.

Everything you said is true. That is why agriculture, and then industrialized society have been the worst mistakes we have ever made as a species. (not that we really "chose" to follow that path). I hope you realize that we are reaching a point where even friends and family won't be socialized to think of you as a individual with rights. It's already happening.

That's why our society is so preoccupied with negating human responses to the massive stress caused by contact with technological society with pharmaceuticals and entertainment spectacles.

Perhaps it is possible to maximize degrees of freedom and maintain the real progress we have made?