yeah, pack is not looking good. rodgers is getting clobbered... it's just, bad. i still have hopes we'll end on a high note in lambeau, take the division, and then possibly play the vikes again in lambeau the next week. if seahawks win against cards (10-6) and packers 11-5 (from beating vikes) and vikes 10-6, then pack is 3rd seed and vikes, since they lost to the seahawks before, are 6th seed, and pack would host the vikes again. i think that's how that works. if seahawks lose, they are 6th seed no matter what. if vikes win, then vikes are 3rd seed and the packers are 5th seed and vikes host seahawks (pack beat seahawks so pack can't get 6th seed) while skins host pack.
as for the pathers, they should have lost to the giants. they peaked weeks ago, i don't know that they are looking that strong. i mean, they are good, but i think they are overrated. i almost am thinking i'd rather lose to vikes and lose division, play redskins then panthers. i dunno though, it's all looking not-good.