New WSJ/NBC Poll Disastrous for GOP

[The dane]

[The Dharma Bum]

The GOP has shattered itself into fragments. They will either have to re-invent themselves or go the way of the dinosaur.

There is simply no coalition to be formed from the narrow interests they represent. Social conservatives were the last of the people naive enough to trust them and they just threw them under the bus.

I hope people start realizing conservative values are dreck and only useful for creating a passive labor force and that this is the only reason Big Business ever supported social conservatism, which they consider useful idiocy.

Maybe they start exploring some political ideas that actually serve their interests. Like labor unionism and getting control of the productive capacity of society.

[Indy]

[The Dharma Bum]

I think a parliamentary system would cut down on the distortion of our result that is created by the polarizing caused by the two party system. It sets up a false dichotomy that can only be addressed with absurdities such as the government shutting itself down.

Since we only have two parties during the primaries the small but vocal wings of the extreme fringes pick who will be running. Then during the general the surviving candidates are the ones that are willing to pander to that wing, leaving decent candidates out of the loop.

That's why our leadership has been weak for so long. We are getting stuck with the dreck.

[The Dude]

[Indy]

I have a good friend from Norway and I asked her how many political parties there are there. There's something like 18.

[nordictruce]

the GOP's problem is on many fronts. The Voting rights act that was passed in 1965, increased the amount of voting African Americans by a considerable in a span of 22 years in combination with just urban development/groth/birth rates

In alabama 1965 there 19 thousand black registered voters. by 1988 there were 68 thousand. in the same state, in 1965 there were 70 thousand white voters and in 1988 there were 75 thousand


Georgia 1965
white= 62k black=27k

Georgia 1988
white= 63k black 56k

Louisiana 1965
white= 80k black=31k

Louisiana 1988
white= 75k black= 77k

mississippi 1965
white= 69k black= 6k lol

mississippi 1988
white=80k black= 74k
etc

just so you don't think I'm pulling these numbers out of the crack of my ass

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...er/numbers.png


African Americans have been in the democratic bloc for damn near a century. The problem isn't the racial divide.

The REAL GOP problem, now that i have broke down the above, is quite simple... the game plan that worked in the 60's and 70's, is not political fiesable in 2012... there are too many black/Hispanic voters. In the 60's and 70's and even into the 80's you could win a presidential election off pretty much the conservative white vote. you didn't have to cater to anyone else because the numbers that everyone else had didn't matter.. white couples were the predominant voting power of america and if you made them happy, you pretty much were gonna win

The problem is not one but a few, and the GOP has not done anything to offset this. The new aforementioned black vote, the GOP never bothered catering to, so they stuck with party lines. That really isn't even the biggest deal. The worst decision in GOP history IMHO is to tell immigrants to **** off. That was the beginning of the end.


in laymen's terms, the GOP problem is that in 1982, it was politically fiesable if not prudent to ignore just about everyone but conservative american vote, because there weren't enough of anyone else that were registered voters that mattered. In 2012, it's not politically fiesable to ignore everyone else but conservative votes, and that's exactly what they are doing. the plan simply won't work. no matter how you slice it no matter how high your fox news ratings are, there are too many minorities and single people to not cater to any of them.

it's not one thing. The GOP is really, really f**k not because of black people. because it hasn't done anything to change anything since well.. ever.

There are good republican candidates who from time to time can sway a block of minority voters, but the GOP really needs to change the game plan to account for the new playing field or this will continue.

[Mr.Bill]