Death to Public Sector Union

[Spider]

The one that pisses me off is public school teachers with tenure.

[Libertarian602]

Ya, that's pretty mind blowing.

I know that teaching is one of the most under appreciated jobs in this country, and yet one of the most important ones.
We throw so much money at our education system, and get nothing more than mediocre results. Our education system is f**k.

[The Comrade]

our education system is fine. our attitude towards education is not. we just don't value it in this country and it shows.

[Homer]

Of course public sector unions should exist and play a role. If you want a high standard of employees, you need to offer decent pay and benefits. You need an organisation who will work with employees over grievances in the workplace, an organisation to maintain health and safety standards, and to fight for adequate funding for the organisation.

I've worked in the private and public sector, and the one thing I've noticed is the argument right-wingers say about the state being inefficient is untrue. State organisations are at least as efficient if they have adequate funding. When governments pander to the 'Tax is theft' brigade, they start penny pinching, and state departments end up having to spend time and effort justifying and lobbying for every penny spent. They also have to make do with inferior or outdated infrastructure.

Give them adequate funding, so they're not having to have meetings and god knows what whenever they want to buy a pen, and they will perform at least as well as the private sector, and you'll get better value for money as a tax payer.

[The Comrade]

often times public employees get blamed for shit too that isn't their fault, or at the very least, they are just going along with something that is out of their control. like the DPW here will just drive around all day sometimes, or take 8 hours to fill a pothole. the problem isn't them, it's their superiors doing f**k to keep them in check and give them work to do. so yeah if my boss doesn't give me anything to do you're damn right i'm going to slack off for the rest of the day. most people would.

the issues with government are almost always top-down.

[Libertarian602]

[Libertarian602]

[Southern Dad]

What about the police unions? You know the ones that support officers involved in shootings and deaths in custody? The ones that keep police departments from firing officers who violate suspect's rights.

[exploited]

Public unions can be problematic at times, but they also happen to be the only unions with any fight left in them. It is for that reason that I support them. In the long run, their disappearance will be the death knell of organized labor, and we've already had a taste of what that means (unparalled, unchecked aggression towards workers and the highest wealth inequality in our history).

[eynon81]