In Greece, defiance dissipates into capitulation

[eynon81]

[Philly]

Bro seriously why do you have all these gifs?

[Kane]

[The Comrade]

the fact that half the EU is still in "punish greece until they're a third world failed state" mode is pretty telling of the general state of the EU. i can't f**k wait for portugal to default again and spain to follow once they lose catalonia.

it seems like no one involved, not even the troika, are really concerned with a practical deal that all parties benefit from. just brinksmanship and punishment of greece. "waah the greeks can't pay us. we better force more policies on them that make them even less likely to pay".

without some sort of huge reform towards greater centralization i don't see the eurozone or even the EU surviving my lifetime in any meaningful manner. greece, and their response to it, is indicative of how terrible the current system is.

[eynon81]

what does the the EU offer if not financial stability?

[TestingFF]

don't mind me

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[The Comrade]

[Kane]

[Spider]

Reading through the details on this...really can't see where this is anything but the mildest of easings of what the creditors had been demandeding all along. They just overwhelmingly rejected this in the referendum, only to bend over and take it nearly immediately. This brinksmanship was just pointlessness. Greece was begging, hat in hand, and never had any leverage to demand much of anything. If the EU wants to shed some dead weight, fine. Just do it. If Greece wants to make an ass of itself trying to set terms for the charity it recieves, whatever, just make it quick. Putting everyone in the middle through a prolonged wringer for the sake of ego massage is just idiotic.

[Indy]