If Corporations Are People and People Pay Taxes Then...

[Indy]

Can corporations go to jail? Can corporations require medical care? Can corporations be sickened or killed by polluted air, water or land? Can corporations be physically injured? Can corporations experience love?

You can pull out all the texts and technical games you want but you're never going to sell anybody on this bogus definition.

Here's what's funny:

-If I rob a corporation, I can be arrested and go to jail--if a corporation robs me, it can't be arrested and as we've seen, nobody goes to jail
-A corporation that commits fraud or ruins the lives of millions of actual people can reach a financial "settlement" with "no admission of wrongdoing"--we're both allegedly people, yet I would never have that option
-Corporations have spent billions trying to defeat overhauling our healthcare system--a system they would never need. Yet we're both allegedly "people."
-Corporations have spent billions to insure they can pollute our air, water and land as they wish--a corporation can never be physically harmed by pollution, yet we can
-Because money is now perversely considered "free speech," a corporation has infinitely more free speech than any individual in this country--yet we are both allegedly "people"

You know what amuses me most? All the people who play absolute apologist for corporations and fetishize them--are the same people who scream bloody murder about big gov't. They want gov't out of their lives and their guns and their religious-backed discrimination... yet lay down like lambs when it's corporations taking over their country.

They're literally just substituting one form of tyranny for another. Somehow convinced that this is the glorious "free market" and capitalism and gee wont' Utopia be upon us once everything is privately owned/controlled.

Pffft.

[John Galt]

can send individuals from a corporation to jail.
individuals can pay restitution in lieu of jail sometimes. frankly i think it's the better option.
corporations are not monolothic robots. they are made up of people, people who do use health care services. many other corporations lobbied FOR the healthcare overhaul because of all the money they'd make off of it.
the fact that government regulates pollution and so yo ucan't sue people (or corporations) for being under the regulated amount is a problem you need to take up with the government, it's not an issue about "corporations"
no corporation has an infinite amount of money. it's groups of individuals and if you want the government to touch them at all then they need their speech. you jsut want to be able to beat Atlas with whips and gag him so he can't complain about it

[Philly]

I see you're still failing (refusing) to separate the legal definition of corporate personhood from the literal definition of personhood.

[Indy]

[Saz]

[Indy]

And rhetorical question, but: you've never worked for a corporation have you?

For if you had any experience in that, if you think everything will be just nirvana if the country were run like a corporation, then God help your generation.

[John Galt]

there was a time in this country when slaves were not regarded as legal persons. that doesn't mean they were not human. even people that denigrated them still recognized that they were human, albeit a lower form in their opinion

legal personhood is an entirely separate concept from humanity. its why abortion can be considered legal, for example.

and to answer your "rhetorical question", i work for a corporation that employs about 60K people worldwide

[Indy]

Actually that was for Saz.

[Dylan]

[Saz]