Will/Should the Confederate Flag Be Banned?

[Spider]

[Spider]

[uebermann]

Apple is well known for knee-jerk reactions.

I don't see the US banning the Confederate flag. If people want to buy them and wear them or put them up on walls or whatever, go for it. War memorials, sure. But it definitely shouldn't be flying at any state capitals or on any government bulidings.

[John Galt]

US wouldn't ban it. couldn't, really. this will probably get the last of the holdouts to get rid of it FLYING on statehouse grounds though.

but of course there is historical value of the flag itself. the state of virginia repeatedly asked the state of minnesota for their flag back, but the first minnesota gave the last full measure and took that from them when they were in the middle of picket's charge so virginia can eat a bag of dicks

i also don't see why some people constantly want to paint them as "Traitors". there is a reasonable argument (one i ascribe to) the the constitution allowed for secession. the idea is gone now, i dont think anyone would. and yes, many of the reasons for it were bad, but that doesn't make them traitors. there were honorable men in the south and despicable men in the north.

when i've gone to civil war battlefields i have seen magnificent statutes and memorials from all the states. in vicksburg, minnesota's obelisk comes first into view but illinois grand dome which cost millions a hundred years ago looms large over everything. go to gettysburg and here's lee



i don't see a problem with the flag. i don't see a problem with statutes. i do see a problem with ignoring history though. this happened. that some idiot kid shot up a church doesn't mean we should lose our minds

[The Comrade]

they were traitors and they all should have been hanged

[Philly]

[John Galt]

i dont think the confederate flag makes any sense to be flying at the capitols

[Philly]

[Aaron]

The difference between historic and symbolic values is pretty simple and obvious.

[nordictruce]

The idea of southern pride in itself to me is nonsensical.


I mean really, what the f**k do you have to be prideful about? The fact that you lost a war, extremely badly? The fact that you enslaved millions of people and justified it? Southern pride to me always has been a word for the good old days where white men ruled and black men knew their place in society. I do not think the flag should be banned even though I hate it, if you want to fly a flag in your yard or in your house you have every right to do so, but under no way should tax paying citizens who are ancestors of slaves have to endure seeing their state capital having a confederate flag flying, in the state that by % has the most African Americans than anyone else in the country at 30%


That would be the equivlant of putting a swastika as the New York state flag and saying that it represents German pride.