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Re: Insanity

Postby Indy » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:29 pm

In Texas, under the guise of a national guard "exercise." If they want my AR-15 they can pry it from my cold, dead hands.

That's why I open-carry--they may think they can grab me when I'm at the Olive Garden but the joke will be on you, commie!

Can you pass the breadsticks?
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Re: Insanity

Postby John Galt » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:31 pm

Americans learn only from catastrophe and not from experience. -- Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Insanity

Postby Philly » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:34 pm

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Insanity

Postby Medius » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:41 pm

The government should not bring to bear its full force...yet.

They must respond, however, because the threat is nil, they have an opportunity they don't often get to wage and win a PR battle prior to action.

First, arrange a hearing of grievances and demands. This is tricky as it can't be seen as negotiating with terrorists. Basically, a hearing out of the purpose.

1.) Why are you doing this?
2.) What do you want?
3.) (most important) by what right do you claim justifies the action?

That third one will give them the opportunity to head-off the eventual arguments that will take place when they likely do have to take action. My guess is that they will claim to be using public lands for public purpose, to which the government can respond that the determination of public use is a power vested by the people in their government and that defying that vestment is not to defy the government, but to defy the people themselves.

Respond to each point. Make a clear case that their actions are those of terrorists and not the actions of patriots and that remedies exist for these people still within the system without requiring an overthrowing of the system. Then make clear that negotiating or ignoring them would be tantamount to negotiating or ignoring other terrorist groups that seek to amplify their voices rather than to convince the majority that a democracy demands.

It won't convince the hard-liners, but it will absolutely isolate them from those less sure of the position. And it is entirely likely that just letting them talk will do more damage to them than the government ever could (like last time).

This also might be a good time to take all those mega non-lethal sonic devices that they are using to disrupt actual free speech and put them to good use surrounding this building and making it very uncomfortable to stay around. Heck, given time and no threat, I bet the feds could think of some really great annoyance tactics to really put the screws to these guys and get them to give up peacefully.
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Re: Insanity

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Re: Insanity

Postby Indy » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:51 pm

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Re: Insanity

Postby Dylan » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:51 pm

My only concern with annoying them until they give up is that as they get hungry, and cold, and increasingly stressed by supersonic vibrations, etc., they may resort to violence. Keep in mind that these people have a very, very tenuous grip on reality.

They are deranged, and not in the fun, loveable scamp Eynon style deranged, but in the scary, holy shit those guys might kill everybody JimmyZ kind of deranged.
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Re: Insanity

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Re: Insanity

Postby Indy » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:59 pm

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Re: Insanity

Postby John Galt » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:00 pm

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