ACA Success story! ...Or not

[Bauce]

I didn't see anyone say that the SCOTUS never gets it wrong but I could have missed it. If anyone did say that I absolutely agree that's foolish.

I think what really annoys conservatives about the ACA ruling is that they won the swing vote on the debate they expected to have and then they lost the ruling because a guy who was expected to side against it being constitutional upheld it on grounds no one expected to come into play, by ruling the penalty a tax.

[The Comrade]

i have a question for you.

is "Getting it wrong" stuff you don't agree with or stuff that isn't constitutional? because you're clearly a textualist, and considering dred scott required a consitutional amendment to overturn, it would make it clear that it was constitutional at the time. and as terrible as everyone but you thinks separate but equal is, our vague constitution technically allows it. is there anything that restricts segregation so long as equal access to the same facilities and institutions is provided? not that i've read. we can thank jim crow and legal challenges to unequal facilities for making case precedent that allowed brown v board to happen.

so were those rulings bad? constitutionally at the time, no. were they morally wrong? yes.

so which one do you judge SC rulings on? constitutionality, or morality?

[dontworrybehappy]

[eynon81]

[Indy]

FWIW I just had an old friend post online about signing up via the ACA website. No problems, he got what we wanted, he now has coverage and it's cheaper than what he was paying before.

OMG this must BE STOPPED. NOW. SOZIALISM!

As for DWBH's latest crackpot conspiracy theory, obviously THE LIBS got to Justice Roberts, poisoning his martini with LIBRUL JUICE causing him to enact a law of TYRANNY because that's what democRATS WANT with this law, they want to make the U.S. an absolute HELLHOLE like Massachusetts and this is why they're using... an idea created by Republicans to do it.

You see, that's how these vermin "got to" the GOP--back then, they proposed single payers and the GOP was like f**knowut? and the libs were all like "Well here, use this individual mandate idea!" which was really just a trojan horse for SOZIALYISM but they knew back in the 90s that all the had to do was lay their trap and in 2008 a black Kenyan would come along to unleash their communist takeover plot. See, this plan started way back in the 60s when the fake birth certificate was created after Nobama was snuck in here from Kenya.

Roberts was allegedly a conservative so clearly Hillary put out the order to squirt librul juice in his drink, just like she gave the order to stand down in Benghazi so she could watch Americans die on live CCTV while reading socialist pamphlets and live-chatting with George Soros who supplied her with the librul juice, as they plotted their next step: to employ Sharia law in America.

[dontworrybehappy]

Just what I expected, not a single ounce of rebuttal other "CONZERVATIZ THINKZ ITZ SOZAILIZM". Crawl back under your rock, troll.

Just remember, your wonderful SC that voted for Obamacare is exempt from it.

[Dylan]

It's a tough decision to defend. I think the commerce clause analysis (both for and against) was a more convincing basis on which to rest a decision than Roberts' antics. Also cheated us out of a definitive ruling on the scope of the commerce clause, which needs clarification.

[The Comrade]

[dontworrybehappy]

The constitution is a guide for making laws. Nothing in the constitution says that I must register my car to drive it on the road, but it's a legal law and I have no issues with that. But the constitution (and SC justices) for over 200 years have said that the gov't can't force you to do buy something from someone. OBAMACARE DOES THAT. Or punishes you for NOT doing it.

[Indy]