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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

Postby Sazari » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:06 pm

And don't f**k around with me. I have some GREAT family friends that are in positions worse than you describe, and of course it isn't as good. But they in general hold the same values, do the same shit, know the same people as anyone else making that money. My moms friend is a single mom with 3 kids on a teachers salary. Her son still plays soccer on the same team as my brother (he has worse cleats to be fair). He daughters went to the same college as me, (they have about 5k more in loans, to be fair). She drives a worse car, and their vacations aren't as nice, and they eat out less...but otherwise they are very very similar. My mom and her bitch about the same things, they have the same worries about their kids.

Maybe if you were the kid in the accord you think the BMW is some huge difference in lifestyle, but it's not dude.
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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

Postby NAB » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:12 pm

A personal NAB analogy®

The "poor" are in Economy class.

The Middle class are in Business Class.

The Rich are in International First Class.

There is a vast difference between Economy and Business, but only a slight difference between Business and International First. Even though a International First Class fare is nearly double that of Business Class.

Everything looks rich from the Economy Class point of view.

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

Postby The Dude » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:27 pm

I didn't want to start thinking up more teams. Yes, there are more specific designations:

Extreme poverty
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middle class
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$250k is not upper middle class. It is rich. It is top 2%. Upper middle class starts much, much lower. There is a sizable difference between lower and upper middle class. less so with middle middle but still there. middle to rich is huge, too. rich to wealthy is also huge.
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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

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Re: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare takes effect

Postby The Dude » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:48 pm

Like I said, if being in the top 2% of households isn't rich, then the term is perverted and has no useful function for discussion.

You cannot be in the top 2% and not be rich. Middle refers to the center point, the median. The 50%. Upper middle is not at the 98 percentile anymore than lower middle is at the 2 percentile.

The use of "middle," even for purposes of "upper middle" means nothing if we extend it all the way to the limit. You are arguing the top .1% are rich and that's it. It's absurd.
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