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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby nordictruce » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:03 pm

March - April - Oh it's just a few random cases in Africa it's no big deal
May- June - Okay it's just a few more cases in western africa, it's killing people but it's not a big deal guys it's never going to come here or anything
August - Okay so it got here, but it's just one dude, nothing to worry about
September - Okay so it's more than one person, it's just a few isolated cases in Texas nothing to worry about
October - Okay seriously it's only a case in NYC but seriously it's nothing to be worried about


While I do not honestly worry about catching ebola, this is one of the things we need to nip in the butt. It's easier to deal with it now than it is 5 months from now
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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby Philly » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 pm

The phrase is nip in the bud God dammit
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby Libertarian602 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:45 pm

Nothing to worry about folks, we got ourselves a ebola czar now, everything's gonna be all right now.
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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby gla22 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:08 pm

I think extra precautions should be taken. Only a very limited number of people are only slightly inconvenienced and it has the possibility of saving lives, from a few to thousands depending on what happens. It only takes one hooker, one junkie, one person frequenting 'bathouses' and soon thousands have it.
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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby John Galt » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Americans learn only from catastrophe and not from experience. -- Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby John Galt » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:56 pm

alsostudies have shown ebola can persist for weeks on surfaces and become aeroslized as opposed to just spread by droplets. not saying this is the dominant vector, but it can happen, so reasonable quarantines are reasonable



Our study has shown that Lake Victoria marburgvirus (MARV) and Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV) can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks. The decay rates of ZEBOV and Reston ebolavirus (REBOV) plus MARV within a dynamic aerosol were calculated. ZEBOV and MARV had similar decay rates, whilst REBOV showed significantly better survival within an aerosol.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20553340



There is considerable misunderstanding concerning the potential for aerosol transmission of filoviruses. The data on formal aerosol experiments leave no doubt that Ebola and Marburg viruses are stable and infectious in small-particle aerosols, and experience of transmission between experimental animals in the laboratory supports this [49, 56–63]. Indeed, during the 1989–1990 epizootic of the Reston subtype of Ebola, there was circumstantial evidence of airborne spread of the virus, and supporting observations included suggestive epidemiology in patterns of spread within rooms and between rooms in the quarantine facility, high concentrations of virus in nasal and oropharyngeal secretions, and ultrastructural visualization of abundant virus particles in alveoli [17, 50].

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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby Professor » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:03 am

Why just ebola? Look at this logically. Ebola is a communicable disease, which infects only when an infected person's body fluids come into contact with an uninfected person's fluids (getting it on your unbroken skin doesn't do it - it's not acid that eats through your skin). It has a mortality rate of 50%.

What other communicable diseases have similar stats?
- AIDS
- Hepatitis
- Influenza
- Malaria
- Tuberculosis
- Hanta virus
- Hemorragic fever

These diseases can be treated with various degrees of efficacy. But, they are all communicable prior to treatment, once the patient is showing symptoms (or, like AIDS, sometimes before symptoms even develop).

So, why are we just isolating ebola patients? Isn't it logical to quarantine everyone who is or has had contact with an HIV/AIDS patient? Or everyone who is or has had contact with someone who has the flu?

As usual, the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. The public is completely ignorant of the facts (in the case of most, they simply don't know - but in the case of many, like most of you here, knowledgeable about the facts, but still stupid), so they get all bent out of shape about it. Unfortunately, it's not just a disease anymore. It's a political football. We have, what, 1 ebola patient in the US right now? Yet, that warrants a Czar at the national level? A Czar . . . for 1 person? f**k it, I want a Czar to watch over me, keep me safe, protect me from dangerous baddies, get me some coffee, and suck my ballz whenever I want.

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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

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Re: quarantines, chris christie, and obama

Postby spacemonkey » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:27 am

They are playing the whole thing by ear. They are more concerned that any action be "PC", rather then just plain "C". In a few years, we will know how we did.
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