What would you call this

[Spider]

[Kane]

[John Galt]

[Philly]

Last time I was in the rustbelt part of Pennsylvania, I had a guy tell me that Allentown is full of Puerto Ricans these days, and he added "I bet 90% of them are illegal immigrants."

He is correct that there has been a population surge among Puerto Ricans in Allentown. He is of course incorrect in his estimate that 90% of them are illegal immigrants, since everyone from Puerto Rico is a naturally born US citizen. When I informed him of this, he refused to believe it. When I pulled it up for him on my phone to show him, he insisted it was either wrong or "a brand new rule" that illustrates the need for Trump's heavy-handed immigration approach, because there's no way we should just be letting them in like this.

The point is that this guy griped about illegal immigration, but when he found out the people he was complaining about were here legally and not actually even immigrants, he was even more pissed.

That's just one guy, but he's surely not alone. It accounts for much of the energy behind this nativism, which is being fueled by racism.

[John Galt]

well that's fair but puerto rico is not a state, so it's kind of strange to think about. puerto ricans receive unequal benefits (less) than citizens in states, so "immigrating" from the territory to a state would be of a financial incentive simply for that reason. making them a state would cost the US more in assistance -- and is possibly a reason why they are not a state -- but would end this disequity and puerto ricans would have less incentive to go to allentown, i presume

bear with me. had the US annexed territory in WWII of germany, and similarly had it as a territory and not a state, those germans could be doing the same thing in search of better benefits within the US states. they would have accents and dress a bit different, but they would be white, and takin ar jerbs. would it be racism then? many would feel like they aren't americans -- they are from american territory, but it has some level of autonomy different than the US states as its a territory. i would say they weren't from america -- that means they aren't americans, even if they are citizens

i'm not saying there isnt racism involved but the issues are different

[broken robot]

[broken robot]

The only true nativists are Native Americans and they're pissed a lunatic of German lineage is now their president.

[John Galt]

native americans did not found the united states

[broken robot]

And Norwegians who moved to Minnesota can become nativists after the founding of the republic.

That was the joke.

[John Galt]

I'm only a small part Norwegian, and I'm not a nativist. I favor open borders, and no minimum wage. I want all the Mexicans to come do jobs for next to nothing if they want. I'm also like against paying for their medical care though among other things and once we get into that... Well i can see the argument for keeping out people has some merit as I don't like supporting other people. This has nothing to do with race as I despise all freeloaders equally