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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby Indy » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:48 pm

There's some Libertarian views I'm totally on board with, some I think are crazy, like the complete deregulation of the financial sector, etc. But they tend to be socially liberal.

Yes, it's contradiction totally, which is why I thought "Libertarian Socialist" best described my outlook, although all labels are getting meaningless at this point even if you try and hybrid them.

For example: most people think of Ron Paul (recently) as a pretty high-profile example of a Libertarian. I think some of his ideas are spot-on, but then some are ridiculous.

Yet, the Koch brothers consider themselves Libertarians and if you read what they want when one of them was campaigning--holy sheeeeeeet--these people are crazy. Like batshit crazy. What they want is basically this country taking a cyanide capsule. So no way am I on the same side as them.

The Dems I obviously tend to roll with on social issues and populist/economic ones--although many really left Dems didn't think, for instance, Clinton was a Dem and arguably he wasn't. Well, a Dem but certainly not a traditional "liberal."

The GOP I despise not because they're conservatives but because they're not conservatives--whatever this has mutated into isn't the conservatism which had many principles which, yes, I totally agreed with. Now it's basically a front for plutocrats, oligarchs and Bible-throwers where the only ideology seems to be attacking "the left," the definition of which changes regularly. And bombing everybody. And bashing minorities. The reason I rip them so regularly is the misguided hope that one day they will snap out of it and become the party of people like Huntsman and NOW we have a real choice in America (well, two) besides: almost completely neutered and balls-out f***ing crazy.

Another example: there used to be a joke that conservatives want a huge military but don't want to send it anywhere and liberals want a small military and want to send it everywhere. That's out the window now. Because "conservatives" want a huge military and want to send it everywhere and our "liberal" president may not be using the whole military, but he's certainly sending it everywhere.

One last example: Iraq. GOP: 100% for it. Dems: um, well they voted for it even if they 180'd later. Ron Paul: against it. Traditional liberals: against it.

I was against it from the beginning. So which one am I?
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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby Libertarian602 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:59 pm

I consider myself a libertarian, but I'm also a pragmatist. I think If i agreed lockstep with every single libertarian view, or talking point, Id be a koolaid drinker like the right and left have. I think If you took to time to talk to other libertarians you'll find there's just as much mistrust of the bankers and wall street barons, as they have for government.

If the decisions the fat cats made didn't indirectly and directly affect me or you, Id scream and yell about deregulation all day long. But that's not the case. I hate crony capitalism as much as I hate unbridled statism.
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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby Libertarian602 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:42 pm

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby spacemonkey » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:12 pm

We celebrate gluttony and greed. We say we don't, but we do. Whatever you have, someone always thinks they deserve more, even if its way more then they will ever need. But in the end, the six foot deep holes are all the same.
The hardest part of doing nothing is knowing when your done.

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby nordictruce » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:27 pm

This is all feminisms fault. I'm dead serious.


in 2014 there are 2 worlds. Worlds where a person was raised in a nucular family and a world where they weren't. You have all these women running around here spreading their legs for any dude with a pulse because they are "liberated" and then are stuck rasing a kid by themselves and they can't .


I was rasied by a single mom. She had me when she was 19 years old. She bust her ass, got a masters degree when she was 31, and I grew up in a pretty decent middle class neighborhood, but I never had a father around to tell me stuff about, savings and credit. My mom was busy busting her ass to provide for us. She did good but there are limits to what one person can do. I had no college fund. I had no direction, other than get the f**k out of the house because you're 18 and i'm tired of taking care of you lol.


I'm 31 and earlier this year was the first time my credit was good enough to actually go and get a car loan for a car I actually want (bmw 6 series btw :D )). I own my own house but I bought it out right. I literally saved my money for 3 years and bought a house, because I had no credit. No one helped me get a car loan and helped me build my credit up, it took me 10 years of of shit 25% APR credit cards, secured credit cards, whatever the hell to get a 700 credit score.

I've spent my entire 20's building my business and trying to keep my head over water. I own my own house as well as my own company but I have less than 10k in my savings account.


My best friend is a 27 year old female who is the polar opposite. Her mom makes about what my mom makes but she has her dad as well and I don't. Her parents paid for her college, co signed for her a car when she was 21 and now she's 27 with a 800 credit score and 30 thousand dollars in the bank, living at home with her mom until someone proposes to her and stacking up more money. '


This is not a political issue. If anything I'm more with republicans on this and I'm a democrat. This is a stop having f**k kids you can't support issue. If you cannot raise a kid and send them to college, pay for them to have a good education, don't have the f**k kid. That's the issue this is.

My mother is married now and I have a 14 year old sister, total opposite. Girl has never been to a public school in her life, girl has a scholarship fund already setup.

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby Philly » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:00 am

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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

Postby Indy » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:16 am

LOL WTF was that?
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Re: Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

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