GAMEDAY!!!!

[IndependentProfessor]

[Kane]

Came out and said he's repealing Dodd frank and is possibly appointing Jamie Simon to secretary of the treasury. Look at all that change.

[Spider]

Like I said, Galt. Apply all the insane shit Trump has said and done to Obama in 2008, and people would have lost their shit if he were elected. (and he never would have been. Liberals would have dropped him and ran away, whereas conservatives seem to admire Trump his vices, racism, and criminality.) Obama was relatively controversy free. Trump is entering office directly after his fraud trial and as an admitted sex assault braggart who wants to wall off and/round up brown people.

Apples and oranges.

There is simply no defense of Trump. No way to sanitize him. Try as you might, but we are not letting anyone forget for a second exactly what that sick, unamerican f**k actually is.

As for "curbing drug use" and such...fantasy. Utter fantasy. I doubt the street prices would even increase much. And Trump's racism gets pointed out on a wide spectrum of issues and actions, some of which I listed out earlier in this thread. I didn't even bother to mention the Mexican rapists angle as it seems the least egregious of the bunch to me.

Anyways, for my own part what I'm going to do is lean back in my chair with my arms crossed and give the great kitty grabbing citrus wimp a chance. Because that is the basic respect due the office if not the fractional excuse for a man who's going to occupy it. I'll give him his 100 days to show me that he really is a moderate, as re\/o claims...that maybe the insane shit he was spouting will get walked back when it crashes headlong into stark reality. That he'll break his promise of attempting to jail political opponents like we've fallen down to the status of the People's Republic of Murica-y'all-stan. That he'll drop this insane wall idiocy.

He'll get a chance to at least pretend basic humanity and civic decency and moral courage.

Which is a lot more than his supporters would have given Clinton or Sanders.

[Kane]

McConnell has already hinted that he's not for a wall or his $500 billion infrastructure spending. The GOP has historically been the party of trade too, so slamming tariffs on China would be problematic...unfortunately for the GOP, he has some unilateral leeway there.

It's going to be a tough four years for all of us.

[Gremlin]

[fstarcstar]

[NAB]

[Spider]

[John Galt]

still not finalized data -- roughly 92% of votes have been counted and at one point today CNN projected trump to be the winner of the popular vote but they've walked that back (probably from protesters). so 2016 may change.

anyway.



i added up data i found from wikipedia and http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/turnout.php and some public domain stuff. and i came up with the above.in terms of percentage of eligible voters, it's been pretty shit since LBJ/Kennedy. the only blip was Perot... but that took away from Reps more than dems really. and you can kind of see that trendline with the dems

once we get into this century it picks up. 2004 had a lot of votes -- there was a war on, you know. 2008 had even more, but still not at the levels of Ike, Kennedy, and LBJ.


but my oh my what do you see for 2016? oh my, what's this? it's almost the same porportion as obama in 2008, and more than obama in 2012? but i thought people stayed home! you mean... you mean... they voted 3rd party?!?!?!

[Spider]

Of course more people voted third party. The two most despised candidates in history were running against each other in the same election. Twas the perfect storm. Not sure why that would be surprising to anyone.

Actually...third parties SHOULD have done awesome this year. But: