Inequality Highest Since Great Depression

[lnrw]

Who is in debt now? Or does that matter?

No one is absolved, but pouting about what others own, with time and effort behind their wealth, will get you where? Exactly?

Wealth will not magically appear just because you have a decent job. It takes time and care with what you earn.

[Saz]

[exploited]

I think, generally speaking, most people have realized that the issue of wealth inequality has gone far, far past the place of basic envy, of wanting to have things and being mad that other people once had them. There are global economic structural problems. Reverting to some sort of archaic political ideology, be it traditional social-democracy or traditional liberalism or traditional libertarianism, simply isn't going to cut it.

If you can't adapt to this, chances are, you'll be left out of the cold politically. Because the suggestion that people should just work hard and save is completely irrelevant at this point.

[lnrw]

When middle class working people do regain a semblance of wealth and comfort, it will be by their own effort, not by a political solution.

We've got where we are by political solutions and that has been an abject failure.

So piling on more of the same won't cut it, for sure.

[exploited]

[lnrw]

[exploited]

I think that we need the alternative institutions in order to start talking about big infrastructure investments again, probably. I mean the issue is that our institutions are broken, so as you said, throwing more money to those institutions isn't going to fix anything. But there are common sense projects that need to be done, that will require government, or something like it. For instance, road maintenance and internet access and clean drinking water, etc. We all need these things and it's a shame we can't do them right because we're stuck with the sort of government we currently have. These are projects which objectively help everyone, but the way things are done is so wasteful and stupid that we end up spending our time bickering about food stamps and gay marriage and Weiner's weiner.

I personally believe health care and education should also be considered a project of the same caliber, but the point is that my feelings and most of everyones feelings don't matter, and have no impact on how things are done. That needs to be addressed first.

So, alternative institutions first, and when we have something to organize around that isn't retarded, we can start making these kind of decisions again.

[lnrw]

I say go for it.

It sounds like the only way possible.

[exploited]

I'm working with broken, Dharma, and two IRL friends on a project to address this right now. Want to help out? We could use some non-socialist input on some of the ideas we are thinking about (primarily an online, secure platform for people to organize politically and then make real decisions, with money and everything).

[lnrw]

That is most kind of you to consider me. Thank you very much. Believe it or not, I really am honoured.

If you want to run something by me, I would welcome that.

I have no problem with socialism as you are proposing to do it.

Your way would not force it on me and people should be free to pursue any type of system or society they want with that caveat.

As long as there's no gun to my head, I support your right to do pretty much whatever you want to do.