Should vaccination be mandatory?

[The Dharma Bum]

man you are dumb

the reason we were doing that to Canadians is because it is against US law to do that to our own citizens

also, you clearly have not really done much research on this guy because those experiments were mild in comparison to some of the things we was doing with children

[The Dharma Bum]

just so you understand something

operation MKULTRA was not about developing "mind control" it was about developing advanced interrogation techniques using torture, something that served us well in our "dirty wars" and covert prisons in later decades

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Oh my god, bad things were done to children fifty years ago, therefore we should never force children to do anything dur gur hur.

Seriously, all you are saying is that something bad happened in the past. Therefore this completely unrelated, good thing shouldn't occur. Like wtf.

[The Dharma Bum]

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What in the f**k. You just cited yet another incident from fifty years ago.

I'm sure you can find something at least within the past twenty years to substantiate your incoherent opinion and mass generalizations of the medical profession.

[The Dharma Bum]

it's an opinion about informed consent, as you are well aware, and not the medical profession

you know you are wrong, that's why you lie

The reason I bring these items up is because they came to light to to the efforts of this man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_L._Rauh,_Jr.

it's cute that you think the human character has transformed so drastically in only 50 years that vivisection and other human experimentation is no longer an issue.

The ONLY reason to oppose informed consent is to facilitate vivisection.

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What... I...

So when a kid is dying of a treatable disease, but his parents believe it defies God to get care, what I am really advocating when I say ignore informed consent is to vivisect him?

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[The Dharma Bum]

When a doctor doesn't need informed consent he can do with impunity what Cameron did to that young women and hundreds of others that were seeking his help.

You keep acting like this guy is an isolated nutcase or criminal. He was working for government intelligence agencies.

You know, the ones that are trying to kill whistleblowers like Snowden and Assange, torturing people in covert prisons all over the world, and has an army of assassination squads larger than the entire Canadian military and is currently active in several theatres.

I'm just saying we have to get a handle on this shit before it gets out of hand and we have an outcome like the Germans, Russians, or Chinese did last century or worse.

Don't think it can't happen to us. Human society does not act rationally. Those horrors were the result of instinctive collective actions, not rational thought. We want to act rationally, and that requires respect for individual rights over facilitating any collective behavior that seems convenient at the time.

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We simply don't trust the vaccines, the governments and certainly don't want mandate vaccination.

The pro-group here seems like they have never been forced vaccination before, don't really know what was it like. Well, I had. I certainly don't want it again. The vaccine leave permanent problem, whether it's fatal or not, it's there in your body forever. I wish anyone of you (the pro-group) had that smallpox vaccines like I did, see how you feel when you found out the cowpox is in you forever.

And if vaccines are so good and safe, then, why so many VETERANS complain they get sick afterward. Do they suddenly suffer paranoid and become conspiracy theorists? The Vietnam vets carried Hepatitis C from the shots they had before they went overseas. And see below articles,

U.S. military veteran describes how vaccines made service members sick
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/041635_us_mi ... bers.html##ixzz2yhCWnWdc

Shots in the Dark: Unanswered Questions Plague The Military Vaccine Program
http://www.vva.org/veteran/0607/shots.html

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