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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

Postby dontworrybehappy » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:36 pm

"Police protection" is an oxymoron. Gun laws are like masturbation, they both feel really good, but after you're done you realize you haven't accomplished anything."
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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

Postby uebermann » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:30 pm

guns - I'm pretty apathetic about most of this stuff as I don't really care one way or another. I don't have a problem with guns, I have a hunting rifle and am looking to get a shotgun in the near future. Don't think people need 100 round drums/magazines. So I'm all for some regulation but I don't think guns need to be banned.

abortion - I wouldn't recommend anyone get an abortion but I think the option should be there if people think its the best decision for them. The cut off date needs to be when the fetus is viable outside of the womb, however (like 80% survival rate).

gay marriage - sure let them if they want. why not? doesn't hurt anyone by allowing them to and it clears up a bunch of issues with hospitals (next of kin/family members) and taxes and such.

taxes - there should be a standard transactional tax on everything except moving funds from checking to saving (and vice versa). screw income tax. no tax loopholes for corporations or people.

energy resources (drilling, mining, etc) - I think its time we moved on from oil. Its a resource that is going to run out and we might as well get off of it now and stop supporting the shahs in the ME. innovation and all that. Not a fan of destroying nature to drill for oil just for the sake of having oil.

religion - I don't have any problems with religious people but I do not like any religion. Religion does not solve any problems, and does, on the whole, way more harm than it does good. I wouldn't ever tell someone to not be religious or make fun of their religion but if pressed I would probably say that all religions are dumb.

military - I think everyone should serve minimum 2 years but those not wanting to serve 4 years shouldn't be put into direct combat. I think our military budget is a tad bit excessive.

nukes - I think the US is highly hypocritical for telling other nations they can't have nukes. All or none imo. (preferably none)

unions - against them 100%. may have been needed 100+ years ago but not now. also another case of doing more harm than good

public schools - fine with the concept but the actual practice leaves much to be desired

death penalty - I'm ok with it, but I don't think its a deterrent.

health care - if you want insurance, buy it. if not, don't. but the insurance companies need a bit of regulation.

immigration - let those looking to work in. maybe issue a 4 year visa or something first and if they don't work, they get the boot

drugs - legalize marijuana and probably those little mushrooms but crack, cocaine, pcp, meth, etc etc all need to stay illegal because they do no good and cause nothing but problems (including potential death on just one use)

I'm not going to bother trying to figure out my label on these =P I'm lazy.
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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

Postby Gnostic » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:46 pm

Liberal on:

Social issues such as homelessness, access to medical care and food to all.

Military: I think we have a massively overbloated military. It needs trimming in a big way. It's unsupportable and unnecessary.

Foreign policy: The US needs to stop the "do as we say not as we do" doctrine, and discontinue playing the world's marshal, as well as supporting corrupt regimes and starting farcical wars for profit/politics.

Abortion. A woman's body is her own, it doesn't belong to some fat middle aged politician or religionist telling her what to do with it.

Gay marriage: Absolutely. Should be legal everywhere. In my mind, it's the last great civil rights issue in America, as the last one was with racism.

Death penalty. Should be abolished for common sense reasons. Killing people who kill people to show that killing people is retarded circular logic.

Drugs: Legalize them. Making them illegal just creates more crime. And the war on drugs is a miserable failure.

Environment: Needs to be protected before we all live in catastrophe.

Unions: While not as necessary as it was decades ago, they still provide a needed service and bulwark against unregulated exploitative capitalism.

Taxes: I don't mind paying a higher rate as long as it goes toward the well being of my society as a whole, but not for continued excesses by government (such as farcical wars and bailouts for billionaires).


Conservative:

Guns: I think the second amendment is sacred. It was put into place not for citizens to protect themselves from a foreign enemy, but for them to protect themselves from a tyrannical government at home. Though this is already really too late.

Immigration: I believe it should be partially open to those with willingness to work and contribute but certainly not open border policy. The government can't support that and there aren't enough resources to go around any longer.

Lots more but I don't have the inclination to type it all out. Random sampling alone should be sufficient to label me a schizophrenic commie librul
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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

Postby J.K. Gregg » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:43 am

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

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Re: Sh*t you're liberal about/Sh*t you're conservative about

Postby The Dharma Bum » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:58 am

A word on political correctness.

Human beings seem to get by by creating protocols for their personal behavior based on whatever positions are favored by the affinity groups they are attracted to. It's easier to just pull out a canned politically correct response than it is to come up with something substantial. '

I don't blame individuals for this. We are forced to interact in such a diminished fashion by urgent nature of the almost totally commercialized environment we have created for ourselves.

It's a feature of social alienation, just as an affinity to a subcultural group or displaying your affinity group's beliefs on ,say, a bumper sticker would be.

Part of the reason people belong to this forum, for example, is to alleviate some of this alienation and to take part in substantive social interaction. That's why there is an emphasis on making substantive points.
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