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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby exploited » Tue May 20, 2014 9:28 am

He is. We are all lucky to have a competent President. God knows how GWB or the lunatic Republicans would have handled all those massive FP changes... Syria, Iran, North Korea, Arab Spring, Ukraine, etc.

It'd be a mess.
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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby John Galt » Tue May 20, 2014 9:39 am

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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby Dylan » Tue May 20, 2014 9:40 am

Bush handled russia and north Korea basically the same way Obama has. Russia didn't hesitate to meddle in Georgia. North Korea developed the bomb. Bush did nothing.

There is an odd but persistent myth among conservatives thst conservative leaders set the world trembling in fear and have great sway over international affairs because of their strength, steadfastness and resolve. However, the facts don't back this up. The only countries thst were swayed by Bush are those he invaded and maybe Syria. Reagan was unceremoniously booted from Beruit.

As has been stated many times before, republicans don't live in reality. They have literally fabricated an alternate universe in which they now reside full time.

Because of this, they cannot be reasoned with. I think we all know what needs to be done with people who can't be reasoned with.
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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby Dylan » Tue May 20, 2014 9:43 am

Also, John McCain is a fine man and perhaps the last true statesman. But he is also batshit.

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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby John Galt » Tue May 20, 2014 9:46 am

his own party is destroying free trade agreements. sure he devoted time to TPP and to european trade agreements but they are not coming to fruition. that said i agree that doing those things, if he could actually do them, would be good. but that doesn't address how he fumbled on syria and ukraine, which were cheney's complaints.

the problem with ukraine has to do with the US's word on nuclear proliferation. if we never gave our word... that's one thing. but we guaranteed their border integrity in exchange for them giving up nuclear weapons. and here we are while putin has parades in crimea. why should anyone not get nuclear weapons?

the problem with syria was he said a word about it, when it's not important. whenever the us steps in on things like that we put our finger on a scale and it tips in that favor. as soon as we leave, the scale changes again. best let them work it out, it's not our concern, chemical warfare or no. that would be the UN's call, not the US's. so no talk of red lines, john kerry

as for egypt, the administration is schizophrenic, supporting everybody and denouncing everybody. how can this be coherent foriegn policy? it's not. it's a bunch of hacks. no surprise coming from a politican who came out of the chicago that hacks run things
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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby Indy » Tue May 20, 2014 9:46 am

When these guys keep calling for military action, be it Syria, Iran, wherever--I keep wondering: who's going to pay for this?

That's the one thing the McCains of the world never seem to care about.

It's all guns and no butter.
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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

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Re: Every time I get fed up with the Democrats...

Postby Dylan » Tue May 20, 2014 9:57 am

The invasion of Iraq was perhaps the worst strategic and geopolitical blunder by America in history.
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