Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

[The Dharma Bum]

The purpose of government in the first place under the US scheme is to protect the rights of the individual. Collective rights are used to express the stuff like the right to own slaves etc. This of course is something imposed by class privilege and is not part of the law in the US. The fact that ignorant people have attacked the first state charter that guarantees individual rights for it's citizens almost from the beginning doesn't any way mean that your own illegitimate viewpoint is somehow magically rendered legitimate. The concept of collective rights is no where to be found in any of the reasoning behind the formation of the US constitution.

Once again ignorance of the basic philosophical concepts that that frame the discussion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual ... oup_rights

Read this and ya'll wont have resort to calling me names etc and should be able to understand why you are incorrect.

[H. Muir]

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[The Dharma Bum]

[spacemonkey]

A child using a gun is irrelevant. They know what it is, what it does. If they misuse it, they are accountable imo.We're always trying to shift the blame for actions of someone to someone else. There is no magic minimum age of enlightenment for anything. If a 12 yr old takes a gun out to shoot someone, they know what a gun is and what it does, and should be held accountable for its misuse. Hiding behind age is total BS imo. Who's fault is it that they learn about guns more from gangsta movies/games, rather then from gun safety/marksmanship classes? Our fear everything policy probably answers that question.

[exploited]

[The Dharma Bum]

In what way are my views on the 2nd amendment extreme?

[Medius]

[The Dharma Bum]

Also, Ex, I don't think you are aware that the concept of natural rights is the entire basis of enlightenment philosophy and is the ideological underpinning of the concepts of individual rights and human equality.

Your concept of "collective rights" is the extreme and controversial view.

[Medius]

[Medius]