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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby exploited » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:11 pm

This isn't an all or nothing issue.

This isn't a choice between "no guns" and "no regulations." It isn't a choice between "guns protect people" or "guns harm people."

Guns do both, they protect and they harm.

You cannot argue that more guns causes more or less crime. You cannot argue that less guns causes more or less crime. Why? GUNS DO NOT CAUSE CRIME. PEOPLE DO. GUNS DO NOT NEED SELF-DEFENCE. PEOPLE DO. ALL TECHNOLOGY IS AMORAL.

The state has every right to regulate guns, and put reasonable conditions upon their ownership. Those conditions should revolve around what DOES cause crime or harm (or at least indicates an unacceptable risk thereof): freely stated extremist views (sorry but if you say you think Jews should be exterminated, no gun for you, although I'm betting this would be an unpopular condition), improper training, mental illness, a previous criminal record, etc.

Individuals have every right to own a gun, and to defend themselves with guns, if necessary. That right should be balanced within the context of a democratic state, and made conditional upon certain reasonable limits, like all rights.

Those two rights, of the individual and of the state, do not conflict. Some regulation is burdensome. Some is perfectly logical. There is no one-size fits all solution for gun control, or means of self-defense.
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby Ameriman » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:14 pm

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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby Bill_in_Bethlehem » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:16 pm

whenever someone is lamenting the "gun culture" it is almost always a dogwhistle racist comment

never far behind is the "gangsta rap culture that celebrates violence"

if it were a white nfl player who did this - we would only hear that they were disturbed and mourn the tragic loss

bob costas is a bigot
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby Ameriman » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:19 pm

The fact that we are putting this murderer on a pedestal is simply beyond me...

FU Bob Costas! FU and your psychopath loving!
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby Bill_in_Bethlehem » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:29 pm

NAB - "uncle jason" whitlock is paid handsomely to provide cover for the white establishment by lashing out at anyone - even his own kind - when they point out the truth
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby eric » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:31 pm

"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby Bill_in_Bethlehem » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:01 pm

Mod edit. Lets focus on the topic, please. -u
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Re: So Bob Costas doesn't matter

Postby John Galt » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:12 pm

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