Israel shot 4800 shells at Gaza neighborhood in seven hours.

[exploited]

[Dylan]

[uebermann]

[Mr.Bill]

[exploited]

On the contrary, many people care, as should be obvious by the international outrage regarding Israeli disproportionality... It's been one of the main topics of the past month, don't ya know.

As for you not caring, that's good. I presume you also don't care that the US tortured detainees. Or that it has been executing Americans overseas. Doesn't matter right? It's war.

[uebermann]

[Mr.Bill]

[uebermann]

Again, if you want to say that they shouldn't be razing towns/areas to the ground in response, I completely agree. But in terms of "proportion" it simply does not matter because nothing is going to come from it as people will disagree on the principle of proportion.

The reality of the situation is these laws were made in the hopes that warring nations wouldn't just raze every city to the ground as they get to it. Which is fine and dandy when you are talking about two armies battling each other on a battle field. However, the situation here isn't so clear since HAMAS does not have a standing army and is mixed in with the populace and in civilian areas. Not only that, but what does the winning side care if they are breaking International Law anyways? What is going to be done about it in this situation? Germany, England, Australia, etc isn't going to go to war against Israel on this situation with things as they currently are because "proportionate response" can be stretched to justify nearly anything.

What have any of these countries done in response to what the US has done in the ME? Nothing? Its all just a huge grey area unless chemical warfare or nukes are involved. And even then I'm sure there's grey area too, seeing as most see the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in WWII as justified.

[Mr.Bill]

[Spider]

Ya, have to agree about the silliness of proportionality. That's all just idealistic words on paper, worth less than the ink its printed in when actual, physical things start happening. Its another one of those "Gee, wouldn't it nice if everyone conducted a war like a chess match and exactly followed explicit rules." Once there's lead in the the air, there's danger, and I just couldn't possibly give less of shit about the relative triviality of ink and paper. That's for the politicos to pontificate with each other about.

Real world, doesn't happen. The only reason it does happen is because one side views the reciprocity of following a rule as more useful than not doing so. The instant one side or the other breaks the rule, the reciprocity is over and the gloves come off all around.

Each side is responsible to maximize the survival of their own assets, and minimize the survival of the other side's assets. That's pretty much it. There is zero responsibility to pull punches in defense of the people your trying to defeat. If in the course of maximizing the survival of your own assets the other side gets utterly f**k...well. Life was never fair. But at least you won the war.

Its all just a humanitarian effort to artificially equalize powers that are actually unequal. After all, whats the point of being unequal if your just going to pretend you aren't?