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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

Postby Spider » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:52 pm

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

Postby exploited » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:49 am

What content?

You erroneously claimed that delisting a business defrauding consumers and essentially stealing from another company is "censorship." Just like all those poor revenge porn girls - how dare they censor the internet by making a DMCA claim?!?!?!

You have yet to account for the fact that Google does not have to abide by this decision, and won't if it makes more business sense not too (it doesn't).

You can't seem to understand that Canada is a sovereign country doing sovereign country things, none of which are all that outrageous or unprecedented. If you want examples, I can think of a few right off the top of my head - American ex-pats paying income tax, US companies having to abide by the American law overseas, etc. Both examples of national law applying outside the borders of the country.

You can't iterate a reasonable alternative - is the Canadian government supposed to just shrug off the law-breaking and do nothing?

Really, this entire thread is much ado about nothing.
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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

Postby exploited » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:06 am

You know, this thread really irks the shit out of me. And I'll tell you why.

Like all of you, I grew up when the internet was way more free than it is now. It was nothing to download Subseven or Back Orifice or Netbus, send your friend a link to an exe, have him download it unquestioningly, and then spend the night opening and closing his disk tray while pretending to troubleshoot his problems over ICQ. I GET IT.

But now the internet has grown up, and laws are being applied to it. And all of a sudden there is this mythology of the internet being this mystical, freedom-enhancing public service, never to be meddled with by the laws of man. It is SUPER annoying. The internet is not your ejaculatory libertarian utopia, where the laws exist only to serve the greater purpose of the INTERWEBZ. Seeing as how the vast majority of the internet is privately owned, it follows that they are subject to the laws set in the public realm. The cables that connect the continents? Private. The ISPs? Private. The modem companies and the people who dig up your yard to replace the copper? Private. This idea that the internet is above such things as laws regarding fraud, intellectual property, etc. is not only untrue, but tremendously stupid. Why the f**k would anybody want to subvert national sovereignty to a company like Google? How is that even a good thing? It isn't. If Canadians don't want this type of thing to happen, we can pass laws democratically that protect companies like Google from liability. Until then, Google has to obey our laws or GTFO. It's that goddamned easy.

The rest of the intellectually dishonest BS about how content isn't content, and how search engines don't list stuff, is just an attempt to workaround these simple facts. Unfortunately, that shit ain't going to fly here. So you're gonna have to take off your Guy Fawke masks and get over the fact that, yes, the Canadian government has ever f**k right in the world to enforce its laws on Google. This isn't censorship, it is an injunction against a business that is defrauding consumers and stealing from others, ffs.
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Re: Jurisdiction for Online Censorship

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