Whole age of computer

[John Galt]

as already noted by Uber in another thread: there is no evidence the US government has given that backs up their claim that the Russian government was behind any of these "hacks" (well, phishing)

I do believe that the russians hacked hilldog. But I believe they did this years ago, in her dumbshit server. I am confident the Russians have all her emails that she "deleted" from her own server. I'm also confident they placed malware into the state department servers as a result of her treasonous incompetence. Is it still there? Who knows. But the Russians probably have some sleeper malware. Why draw attention? That isn't their style. Russians play cat and mouse spy stuff. They have submarines. They are covert not overt. Americans are far more overt, because MURICA BITCHES.

so in regards to this thing, someone on this planet phished podesta and then exposed him as incompetant and added more fuel to the fire about hillary's corruption. but the russian government? i don't think they would publish their findings. why would they do that? obvioulsy it fits the narrative of people who want to say that trump is illigitment, but stand back and think about it from a broader prospective. there's more to lose for a government engaged in constant spying with another government in exposing the fact they spied than keeping it to yourself. you draw attention and expose methods used, which then would plug holes and leave russia without insight that they previously had

so with no evidence that russia hacked, occam says they didn't because it doesn't make sense for them to expose their spy network

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[Philly]

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[Saz]

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The issue being that they did find WMD in Iraq. In fact, just under twenty US soldiers were injured while handling the various chemical munitions they found.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your idiocy, though, Saz.

I can just envision you in some cramped, sweaty office, in between coffee runs, thinking of various ways to express your half-retarded Machiavellian ideas. It occurs to you that the best way to go after a KGB-trained dictator who has systematically taken over the entire political apparatus of Russia is to call him a big meanie and point out that he is corrupt. And you wonder why the partners are trying to grind you into quitting. You're legitimately dumb.

[The Comrade]

You ain't gotta do him like that, bruv.

[John Galt]

look i got some inside info on this shit. my russian comrades in st. petersburg sent me a care package of stuff which i just got today on my first day back at work and it was so touching. i now own things that were made in russia, including several handpainted ornaments. and i got a sweet new winter hat. so all the russians i know are standup guys ergo russians are standup guys. i already asked them if they hacked the election and they laughed and said no

look, russia might have done something with it, might not have. they are are largest geopolitical foe, but why not make friends with them. of all the people of europe they are the most american. a multicultural continent-stretching nation with vast resources and power, their people are like our people. we should be friends. a US-Russian friendship is good for america and good for the world.

the FBI has presented no evidence that the russians phished or hacked the DNC, a private entity and not the government anyway. obama then threw a hissy fit that his boyz got hakzored and literally threw out diplomats and their families before christmas. this is the kind of petty shit i hope president Trump can avoid, he's got bigger fish to fry with that fat cow, rosie odonnell

if the FBI can provide evidence we can then talk about retaliation. until then, the US must remain vigilant and continue to play its spy games against friend and foe alike, but especially against russia who has the power to kill most of the world's population

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It's legitimately amazing to me that people don't comprehend the full extent of what has transpired here. We just saw one of the most astounding intelligence coups of the century. It likely developed organically, and not as the result of some master plan, which makes it all the more impressive. Putin has so effectively exploited the political divisions of the US that it can't even be bothered to defend it's political processes, which have formed the backbone of American power and prestige for centuries. "It's just a phishing email, who cares about the geopolitical context and the precedent it establishes."

For a couple million dollar investment in some 400 pound Russian hackers, and the effort of sending a f**k email, he managed to help devastate the establishment wing of both political parties, while also helping a known moron who worships him get elected to the highest office in the land. This known moron is going to reverse the sanctions and bend over backwards to help Russia achieve their goals in Syria. And all Putin had to do was help it along a bit. Fantastic. He has likely been in a state of complete bliss ever since.

[John Galt]