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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby Philly » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:59 pm

What are you talking about Indy? The Party passed the ACA when they had control but Obama came in with a super majority and could have done a lot more. That's what I wanted.

And I'm sorry if I offended you by suggesting that you're more interested in politics but I've tried 3 times to discuss policy with you in this thread. The first two times you responded with emojis and the most recent time when I laid out a comprehensive plan to attack poverty you just stopped responding altogether so I concluded that such topics bore you.
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby Indy » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:07 pm

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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby John Galt » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:09 pm

Politically, I don’t think that the whole minimum wage thing is a winner. Sure you might point out in several states it was pushed forward. That’s great, but that doesn’t mean at a national level those same people support it, or that it’s gonna bring independents over, not when people are concerned about jobs at all. Policy wise I don’t think it’s good policy to harm people’s abilities to make contracts.

Politically, single payer is a tough sell after the whole ACA. A real tough sell. We were just told this was gonna fix everything, now you’re telling me that’s not true? You’re telling me this is broken? I think I’d rather just go with the republicans they said it was broken all along. Policy wise, it’s better than ACA (but not as good as removal of government intervention entirely).

Politically, I do think a focus on education is a winner for democrats though. Many people already think that the federal government does stuff with education outside of loose standards, might as well appease them and give them the standardization under a single entity that they crave. It could easily be contrasted with republicans who want to get rid of the cabinet level education secretary (and I agree there is no reason for such a post). Plus you got the “THINK OF THE CHILDREN” bs and whatnot. Total winner. Policy wise I am against centralization, however, it’s not horrible to spend money on education most of the time.

Politically, infrastructure is just another word for pork but it evokes images of the democrat glory days when people worked on the railroad for pittances and they claimed they were helping everybody. You’ll probably get a few wayward sheep with such things. Policy wise because no one else will do it these days the federal government injecting money is important. In fact I think the most important infrastructure improvements has to do with the internet. Common carriage fiber would be a boon
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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby The dane » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:10 pm

A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.

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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby John Galt » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:13 pm

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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

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Re: Boehner and McConnell release their vision for new congr

Postby John Galt » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:31 pm

it provides choice. the dane wants to claim its for indoctrination but that's not correct, if it was it would specifically be for certain faith but it isn't. the fact is that private religious schools perform better than their public counterparts. i thought you people we pro-choice? that's what this is doing, enabling choice. i think vouchers are one of the main planks in improving education. it's not the end all, but it is important. what it gets around are UNIONS. unions are for the teachers, not for the kids.
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