Big Brother to live in Utah

[lnrw]

Not a government program?

Well then, Sir, just what is it?

btw, what are the right questions?

[Gremlin]

I am still very disappointed that so many people continue to play the in the virtual world where there is a face man that runs a body of people 2 million strong with another 8 million contracted/associated out to do the bidding of the face man.

It is glaringly obvious that the fiction of government operates without the rule of law where it doesnt even remain within the confines of its unconstitutional framework. I am still amazed that there are still so many people who will project any legitimacy at all onto a system run by mass murderers, mafia, and machine men. These people have been programed with the consensus that there is no such thing as predators, and "We the people" self govern. We the people take care of ourselves by appointing someone we dont know to direct secret agents to tell us how to run our lives at the barrel of a gun... My,... how big we are,... how sophisticated and civil we are.

Grow up already.
All of these so called "scandals" are of the norm, not the exception,... tis a shame old PCF isnt around for an archive.... all of this is old news, in the "conspiracy forum".

[eric]

People just keep buying into the same stuff over and over and over again.

Seems as if most people are living in a mind-projection fallacy.

Some new stuff http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leake ... socialflow

Good thing anon is around, and people like Manning and Julian. We need more decentralization of power, and we need openness. Well, we actually need to get rid of the government, but until then we need to make it open, at least.

[eynon81]

[Gremlin]

I dont have any way of knowing one way or another other then an investigative hunch.
But i believe the forced handover of the records is just a way to cross reference what has already been recorded on the echelon and nexus systems to create a more accurate/comprehensive database. When the systems go live in Utah there will be more then enough storage space to keep all of this in house and there will not be a need to point a gun at a telecom/tech corporation.

[eric]

Also, turns out the UK has been doing it too. No surprise there.

[eynon81]

[eric]

[Mr.Bill]

Our society has become spoiled...And Apathetic... And another issue is we've become very, very polarized.

Hard to protest against the 'man' when between the 2 sides of our society there is nothing but hatred and distrust. We see it here daily.. And turn on the radio, or TV, it's the same thing.. 24/7 hatred and distrust.. Keep the populace divided, so the guys at the top don't have to worry about a united protest.. Just look at how the conservative talking heads vilified and ridiculed OWS last year.

So the politicians, on both sides, ignore us and merrily do whatever the hell they want.

[lnrw]