Why are Ferguson protesters so stupid?

[Saz]

[The Comrade]

[Saz]

All basically irrelevant but yes, you do make a good point about France. They are quite poor in this regard to. Of course, France imprisons a significantly smaller portion of it's population so when you look at the numbers a higher percentage of black americans are incarcerated or on parole at any given time than the same percentage of muslims in France.

Rest of your point is moot. Of course there is systemic racism, not nearly as bad though. And felony disenfranchisement is a huge issue. These people served their time in prison and yet still lack the most foundational right we enjoy in a democracy.

And yes, the justice systems are less racist in most western european countries. They aren't completely not racist, but nothing like America's.

[Philly]

I wouldn't have batted an eye at fstar or jimmyz claiming this isn't a race issue but I'm really shocked at some of the people here making that exact same claim.

I'm a guy who definitely believes that economic class trumps any other type of privilege in our society, but when it comes to these law enforcement issues you have to be willfully blind to not see that this is absolutely a race issue as well.

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[gla22]

Hypothetical question:
What type of discrepancies between whites and blacks would there be in incarceration rates and deaths by police if blacks as a whole had the same median income as whites?

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[Philly]

Ex, if I say it's a racial issue and you respond "well you can't weed out all the bigots in the world, better to focus on institutional problems", that seems to indicate you don't think that institutional issues can also be racial? I'm not sure I get what you're saying.

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[Philly]

Nobody is arguing that the only course of action is to weed out individual bigots, and stating that institutional fixes are needed does not counter the point that this is a racial issue.