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this is going to be a democratic plan as far as national politics is concerned because it will be finalized in the senate and the president will sign it.

this is only going to be helpful for local elections, really. "i'm so and so congressperson and i voted for immigration bill blah blah blah"

i don't see republicans taking the latino vote on a national level because of this.

I actually caught him on CNN the other night, I think while waiting for the Iran stuff to come on. Seemed like a pretty intelligent guy. He said a few times, that the Republican Party should be the party of opportunity and he thought they had gone away from that quite a bit.

Better late than never.

Can it be? Can we actually be moving forward?



Here's one thing that occurred to me recently: if we had moderates as the nominees from both parties, they'd be FORCED to talk about the issues because all the fringe stuff would be totally irrelevant, if they're going to run as moderates.

You'll notice that Roms desperately tried to start talking/sounding moderate at the very end and talking about things that mattered, reversing his primary positions on most of them. Too little, too late.

Lesson learned?

Is Jindal a social conservative? I had always thought he was, and I ask because I saw he said the other day that Republicans need to stop being party for rich people and basically criticizing the economic direction Republicans have taken. If so, is he suggesting that they moderate their economic stance but hold onto the social conservatism. As much as I dislike the direction the GOP has been going on economic matters, I think they can still win elections with it, whereas the social stuff will increasingly become a losing proposition. My guess: The strong base for anti-immigraton and social conservatism are the same people.

I'll really never understand why people can't solve this problem.

1.) Citizenship is determined by parents, not by place of birth. End the "Kenya" problem entirely along with anchor babies.
2.) Make migrant worker visas much easier to obtain, heck give 'em out to everyone already here that has a clean record.
3.) No federal welfare for migrant workers, no SS participation or taxes, no Medicare participation or taxes (states can decide for themselves for state welfare).
4.) Mandatory healthcare program for all migrant workers (this would actually be constitutional as they aren't citizens), partially paid by employers.
5.) Student visas must be made available to all children of migrant workers residing with them in the states, with applicable fees to cover costs.

I absolutely don't mind having a fairly free work program with Mexico and even other countries. I don't like the idea of absorbing the inhabitants of another country entirely into citizenship. There is absolutely no reason to bring in a workforce that is a net drain on the economy. Citizenship for non-residents should not be a grab-bag, but rather a pathway for people who are able to thrive in our system and create a positive impact on the country. There are many, many Mexicans who do just this.