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Political Crossfire Forums • AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare • General Discussion
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AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:44 am
by anarchy

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:51 am
by Indy
My question regarding these states that are going to opt-out/ban Hitler's health care plan--what are they offering in its place?

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:11 am
by Mr.Bill

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:22 am
by anarchy

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:45 am
by Indy
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that with insurance companies 20% of their costs go to administration?

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:45 am
by Mr.Bill

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:53 am
by Indy
Well that was what I meant Bill when I ask about these states who are fighting Hitler and his socialist Obamacare program--what are they offering in its place?

And the answer is nothing. They're so intent on fighting their jihad that what happens to the actual people is a footnote.

It's kind of like the people who were behind AQ back around 9/11--yay! People wanted to see them stick it to us because they hated us so much. Fun times. Until they had to live under AQ, with them running things.

Um, things got un-fun really quick and people said f*** this, like in Iraq.

I wonder: does anybody in the GOP even govern anymore? Or is their sole job description waging war on "the left"?

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:58 am
by Mr.Bill
And I'm sure most of these politicians who don't want to feed, educate or give the poor Health Care still call themselves Christians..

Hypocrisy to the umtenth level..

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:04 am
by Indy
I think my favorite recent example of are-you-kidding-me? is the farm bill, where food stamps were slashed but corporate farm subsidies were UPPED even more than what was asked for.

Remember: corporations are people. Poor people are lazy.

How did we get here?

Re: AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:51 pm
by The Dude
Honestly, I don't get the position the GOP is taking with opting out in these states.

I get that they want Obamacare to suck. We already know they're evil f**k. But what I don't get is how opting out of the medicaid expansion helps their argument or their standing.

All opting out of the medicaid expansion does is make it so less people get medicaid and costs more for taxpayers. How does this help get them votes? Do they think poor people are going to see states that opting into medicaid having more poor people covered and then vote for them!?

People will look at the other states and say "well gee golly, the blue states have good insurance setup and spend a lot less than we do. We have lots of people without insurance and higher costs all because our state didn't accept medicaid." Now, granted I doubt some of these states turn blue or anything but they will replace the idiots who did this with other more moderate republicans (at least in HC terms). So this will cost them their jobs.

Instead of f**k up how Obamacare is administrated, they designing a "these states have Obamacare, these states don't" dichotomy and I assure you whatever you think of Obamacare, the states with it will be better off than the ones that aren't. Some of the GOP leaders recognize this which is why they're doing everything to delay it.