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And by Global Warming, I mean man-made Climate Changes. Do you believe that human beings industrial pollution have a dramatic effect on climates around the world? Are the extreme weathers this year due to man-made causes?

It's been years since Al Gore came up with the idea of global warming. He also came up with the idea of Plate Tectonic when he was a kid according to the movie. Despite him being an expert on the earth, has he convinced you of his conclusion?

No. It's impossible for over 8 billion beings of a dominant species on a planet to have any noticeable impact on a planet's climate. We are, after all, imbred mongoloids incapable of proper discourse on the subject, how could we be smart enough to destroy our own living system?

I don't know what country people are living in that they haven't noticed anything absolutely bizarre about the weather that last few years.

Yes, just like Al Gore said. Sorry, I don't care if he's a hated "liberal," that should have nothing to do with this.

The moment this got politicized--it's a science/survival issue--is the moment people like the Koch brothers won because they convinced their idiot followers that if you deny what's in front of your face, you're "winning" against "liberals." Congratulations on your suicide pact.

Somehow I'm supposed to believe there's a worldwide conspiracy of scientists that are controlled by the U.S. Democratic party--I mean, LOL--to create this "hoax" to do... what already? Oh yeah, ruin the economy. Or funnel wealth away from Americans into third world (i.e., black, meaning: out comes the dog whistle) countries, according to people like Rush Limbaugh. Now that's a neat trick, not only making it political but racial. Although that is kind of how dog whistle politics works.

If I have 300 fire inspectors walk through my office and say "Get out of here, it's a death trap with exposed wiring and faulty outlets and no sprinkler system" do I listen to them? Or do I listen to my non-firefighter cube mate who says to ignore them because they're the "left" and cleaning up our building code violations--because that is what we are talking about here--will "ruin the company."? Who would stay in that office?

Industrialists have spent billions to politicize this, propel deniers into the MSM spinning their tales of disinformation and let's not forget what this is really all about: pollution. These industrialists believe that the planet is their open sewer, here only for them to use as such in pursuit of profit.

What moron in their right mind would support endlessly polluting the planet they live on until it becomes uninhabitable? Answer: the one who thinks doing so is being a good "conservative."

The irony being that nothing could be less synonymous with the textbook definition of "conservative" than ignoring the warnings and continuing to do what feels good now.

Then again, this is the same Party that, despite Wall St. having literally crushed the economy in the worst disaster since the Great Depression, ignored THAT reality and made sure we put no protections in place after that. So we get the economic suicide pact to go with the environmental one.

Yeah, let's all follow these people and their insane, suicidal ideology right over the cliff. No thanks.

But just keep that in mind: what we're talking about here is reducing pollution, period. And creating alternative energy sources which, if we're not going to become the world leader in that, China surely will, cementing our second-class status for the foreseeable future.

I see that the Koch brothers have launched an all-out assault on that too--targeting communities/operations that are having success with solar because that means somebody might be able to stop using their filthy energy sources.

People who deny what's in front of our face and has been since at least, yes, Al Gore (that movie was 2006 but climate change warnings have been around for decades) and thwart efforts to clean up our air, water and land should be relocated to the places that end up underwater because of those ignored warnings. You want to make where you live a toilet? Fine, you're going to be the one living in it, not me.

The incredibly broad consensus on this issue leads me to the conclusion that there does exist a number of consequences of human activity on earth thst are generally described as climate change.

I tend to defer to experts on topics I lack the education to fully understand. This is such an example. Same with GMOs. Despite the panic attacks they induce in libs, most reliable articles I read suggest there are little to no consequences to their consumption. I act accordingly.

agree with Dylan and Kane. 7 billion of any large mammal species would be changing the climate.

but there's an awful lot of hyperbole around this issue.

Like Non, Dylan and Kane, I think it stands to reason that we are impacting the climate. That said, I have serious doubts about our ability to understand and accurately predict how our species is and will be changing the climate. We are talking about one of the most complex systems you can imagine. The vast majority of the computer modelling is nothing but fancy guesswork concerning only a few variables; meanwhile, climate is formed by the collusion of hundreds or thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of variables. So, to conclude, yes, I believe in man-made climate change, but I do not believe we have the knowledge to make many of the claims being propagated by either side of the argument.

7 million dumb idiots falling over each other in a big pile trying to get a tennis ball