The Future
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:31 pmYello yello.
Used to be in the community back in 2007-2009 back when it was hosted on the original server run by David and LNRW, NAB, Lumina, Kumar, Sazari, The Comrade, Thefranzkafkafront, Lil Bit, neoconfectionary, Geolibertarian, and Nathyn were around. There were some other guys I remember like some libertarian-socialist dude and some guy who toured Thailand a lot too.
Anyway... one of the other forums I used to be on called Discussionworldforum just shut down after operating for 10 years, convinced that discussion boards are a thing of the past with the onset of social media. I tried staying in touch with the server owner, but he was convinced "my people" got Trump elected while I distanced myself from them.
I guess this is what drives me nuts a lot. People... don't know so much.
They don't know how Trump was a liberal during the 90s from his mayoral endorsement of Giuliani on the split party ticket up until his birther crusade against Obama.
They don't know how the origin of America's liberal versus conservative debates go back to the Old versus New School, Side, and Light debates in what proper good works and salvation are among congregationalist, Presbyterian, and low-church Episcopalian circles.
They don't know how despite Trump's lack of piety, he still conducts himself like a presumptuous Calvinist on the definition of good works, and how that impacts politics differently across the country. Democratic bastions like New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, and California are primarily composed of conservatives who are Catholic, but red states across the south, midwest, and far west identify more with Evangelical Protestantism.
They don't get how Biden is a Catholic while America has a history of formalized anti-Catholicism going back to John Jay as the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who labeled the religion as bloodthirsty and warmonger when writing to the Canadians about Quebec's preferential treatment in light of history going back to the St. Bartholomew Day's massacre.
There's so much I can write about on so many levels, but I don't want to say too much too fast. I don't want to overwhelm or talk in vain...
...but the bottomline is people really are disconnected not only from each other but from what makes sense. They just... don't know anything anymore.
I hope this all changes in 2024. 2004 to 2014 was the libertarian/anti-libertarian phase. 2014-2024 looks like the dissidant right/anti-dissidant right phase...
...but politics tends to come full circle every 30 years, and just like 1994-2004 was about conventional conservatism versus anti-conservatism, 2024 looks like another conventionally conservative phase is in the works...
...or maybe it's not. With the boomers and their elders passing away while social justice warriors have social conservatism on the ropes and the civic responsibility behind fiscal responsibility is practically dead from "social media activism" convincing people they're really involved when they're not, who knows what will happen.
Used to be in the community back in 2007-2009 back when it was hosted on the original server run by David and LNRW, NAB, Lumina, Kumar, Sazari, The Comrade, Thefranzkafkafront, Lil Bit, neoconfectionary, Geolibertarian, and Nathyn were around. There were some other guys I remember like some libertarian-socialist dude and some guy who toured Thailand a lot too.
Anyway... one of the other forums I used to be on called Discussionworldforum just shut down after operating for 10 years, convinced that discussion boards are a thing of the past with the onset of social media. I tried staying in touch with the server owner, but he was convinced "my people" got Trump elected while I distanced myself from them.
I guess this is what drives me nuts a lot. People... don't know so much.
They don't know how Trump was a liberal during the 90s from his mayoral endorsement of Giuliani on the split party ticket up until his birther crusade against Obama.
They don't know how the origin of America's liberal versus conservative debates go back to the Old versus New School, Side, and Light debates in what proper good works and salvation are among congregationalist, Presbyterian, and low-church Episcopalian circles.
They don't know how despite Trump's lack of piety, he still conducts himself like a presumptuous Calvinist on the definition of good works, and how that impacts politics differently across the country. Democratic bastions like New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, and California are primarily composed of conservatives who are Catholic, but red states across the south, midwest, and far west identify more with Evangelical Protestantism.
They don't get how Biden is a Catholic while America has a history of formalized anti-Catholicism going back to John Jay as the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who labeled the religion as bloodthirsty and warmonger when writing to the Canadians about Quebec's preferential treatment in light of history going back to the St. Bartholomew Day's massacre.
There's so much I can write about on so many levels, but I don't want to say too much too fast. I don't want to overwhelm or talk in vain...
...but the bottomline is people really are disconnected not only from each other but from what makes sense. They just... don't know anything anymore.
I hope this all changes in 2024. 2004 to 2014 was the libertarian/anti-libertarian phase. 2014-2024 looks like the dissidant right/anti-dissidant right phase...
...but politics tends to come full circle every 30 years, and just like 1994-2004 was about conventional conservatism versus anti-conservatism, 2024 looks like another conventionally conservative phase is in the works...
...or maybe it's not. With the boomers and their elders passing away while social justice warriors have social conservatism on the ropes and the civic responsibility behind fiscal responsibility is practically dead from "social media activism" convincing people they're really involved when they're not, who knows what will happen.