Crackers.

[eric]

Being racist is being racist. Doesn't matter what word you use or what race you're attacking.

Common sense.

[Spider]

Stop trying to inject simple logic into this emotional thread, eric. Nothing but wild generalization and self-aggrandizement allowed hereabouts.

Get with it and declare yourself a semi-racist anti-cultural relativist or just make something up as you go. Its all good.

[Indy]

This guy should get the same treatment as somebody caught using the n-word.

I personally am not offended but we can't have a double standard here.

[Spider]

Exactly.

Desiring an actual discussion about racial issues in one breath while defending the use of racial epithets in the next is like talking about the evil of sexism in one breath and then pontificating about the constitutional weakness of the female mind in the next.

Does not compute.

[The Comrade]

you speak of double standards like there's someone in the Bureau of Assholes who decides the outrage over a racial slur.


protip: white people hold the majority of power and influence in the US. the fact that a congressman saying cracker doesn't elicit any outrage is testament to the fact that white people, largely, don't care or aren't offended.

oh, i know, it's easy to intellectualize your offendedness. you should be offended, so you'll bluster on about all things being equal and double standards when the fact is, the silence on the matter SPEAKS to the very fact that no one cares. if it's a double standard it's a collective one that people don't really care about except white people that want to feel the same type of oppression as minorities because ALL THINGS ARE EQUAL, AMIRITE?

don't worry indy, being a democrat born inside an independents body gets you a spot in the oppression olympics.

[Spider]

[exploited]

I don't think it's appropriate for an elected representative to use such language, but to even compare cracker to ethnic group member or kike or spic or porch monkey or cotton ball or Fat Albert or mudblood or rag head or bible shortener or Jewbag, let alone slant eyes, shylock, anchor baby, dog muncher, jiggaboo, dirt burglar or gin jockey... well, it strikes me as a tad indifferent to historical realities.

[Indy]

[Spider]

Dog muncher?

Anyways, its not about comparing it to whatever else, or even about the historical development of the term, its about the belief that some racism is more or less racist than other racism. It probably stems from the widespread belief that racism is something that white people do to minorities...such that we actually have insipid terms like "reverse racism" or "horizontal racism" to describe it otherwise.

Its not about equating terms, or disregarding their roots.

Its about people believing that:

1. Racism is bad.
2. White people being racist is bad 100%
3. Everyone else being racist is only bad 75%

Which seems to suggest that white people should be held to the 100% standard...because they're white?
...and that we can excuse minorities for only meeting that 75% standard....because they aren't?

That's the not so subtle racism of lowered expectations.

Its offensive as hell when people make excuses for the bad behavior of others on the basis of their race. Or nationality. Or gender....or whatever the hell else. Is there any way to talk down to someone more? Its like making excuses for someone f**k up their checkbook because we secretly think they're an utter dumbshit and can't be expected to get it right.

f**k that. Demographics don't deserve to be shat upon like that.

[Indy]

LOL just noticed that Avatar Spider. So true.