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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:49 pm

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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Comrade » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:53 pm

because it's an easily accessible and destructive weapon and comparing it to knives and drugs is retarded.
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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:00 pm

so the object is to blame
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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Comrade » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:05 pm

in what interpretation of the english language is that blaming a weapon for the actions of someone?

but since destructive power and ease of access are apparently weapon-shaming, you must be a-ok with people owning high explosives, chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, etc.

afterall, pointing out how dangerous those are is just blaming the weapon.
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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby eric » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:26 pm

"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Comrade » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:33 pm

no it's not. answer the question raised in the thought experiment and fully explain your logic otherwise you're just throwing out random logically inconsistent arguments.

if restricting access to destructive weapons is weapon blaming, instead of damage mitigation, then you can't be opposed to any kind of weapon.
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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:42 pm

You are asking why don't I support the private ownership of nuclear or chemical weapons and then say that's not hyperbolic?

C'mon.

I actually think the regulation we have now is about as good as it can realistically be done. Violent crime levels have seen radical decreases in the last several decades and really I just don't think random acts of senseless violence will ever be completely eliminated from society. Thankfully it's an extremely rare occurrence statistically, despite the hyperbole and sensationalism that surrounds the issue.

Frankly I think it's a non starter issue for left politics. You are never going to get rid of the 2nd amendment and it's probably the last issue that the right can use to rally a lot of support, since so many gun owners are affected. Tens of millions of people represent significant political support and alienating them for an issue of negligible practical value doesn't make much sense.

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Re: Should parents be charged when a child uses their gun?

Postby Spider » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:06 pm

I do think they're going to manage to tear out the second amendment eventually...or just break it down to the point where it becomes irrelevant. Far as I'm aware, the gun ownership rate has been in decline for decades...and that voting bloc will only get weaker as time marches on. It used to be half of families in the US owned a gun, and now its more like a third. With more and more kids being allowed to grow up ignorant of them, I don't see how that lobby can remain so strong forever.
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