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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby Indy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:48 am

I'm just going off on a tangent about how we're conditioned in this country to fear black people and why not arm yourself as a result?
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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby The Dharma Bum » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:14 am

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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby Indy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:32 am

I think fear is the key to all of it, and how that's rammed down our throats.

Of course fear of blacks, fear of school shooters, fear of immigrants, fear of socialists, and let's not forget the mother of them all: fear of TERRORISTS.

Why not buy a gun to make yourself feel better?

And if you're going to get one, why not an AR-15 with a high-capacity mag? Although you can't conceal carry that too well.

You'll probably want a CCW-friendly pistol for that, which should be conveniently available when that guy cuts you off in front of the Home Depot and... then the magic happens.
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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby The Dharma Bum » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:35 am

What amounts to is that we are using some pretty crude instruments to direct society.
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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby The Dharma Bum » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:39 am

Also, you are trying to make people afraid of privately held firearms. So what's up with that?
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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:41 am

People should not be afraid of privately-held firearms.

Just because 15,000 Americans are murdered with them every year doesn't mean that you are statistically likely to use them criminally or have them used against you. I mean why would anyone fear something that is statistically unlikely to happen? It is like people think that fear is reserved for abnormal situations.

Just because it makes suicide easier and more successful, and is correlated with a 50% increase in successful suicides, doesn't mean you are just going to off yourself because you bought a gun.

It is irrational. What people need to be afraid of is the police and the government - after all, they kill at least 350 Americans every year.
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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby Medius » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:44 am

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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby Indy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:00 am

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Re: Guess we just aren't going to talk about this

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:05 am

Medius, we've gone over this. You have absolutely zero evidence whatsoever to confirm this statement: "...most are from prior criminal intent..." You are just saying that. I have already shown you statistics collected from the Bureau of Justice Statistics that show that only 38% of murderers have a prior felony, and that only 70% of total murders are done with guns, bringing that number down even further. The only statistics you have are a not-yet cited FBI report that calls people criminals without any actual charge or conviction being levied. Meaning it is all just speculation.

Anyways, this is all for naught. People shouldn't fear privately owned firearms. Various cities have 300 or 400 murders a year, primarily with handguns - why should people be scared of handguns, unless they are a CRIMINAL who does thing like BUY MARIJUANA? It is irrational. Also, it is a moot point - Americans have the right to bear arms, and that right includes weapons far more damaging than a mere rifle or shotgun. Although the law says otherwise, Americans have the right to own and operate nuclear submarines, artillery, fighter jets, rocket launchers, anti-aircraft weapons, high explosives and other weapons vital to the anti-government resistance, which is currently organized out of Aunt Judy's basement, and meets once a month for clotted cream and scones.
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