Why is the West supporting an apartheid vision of Israel?

[The Dharma Bum]

Well, if they agree then fine, but I don't see that happening. Framing nonagreement in such a manner as to be disparaging to them will never lead to a diplomatic resolution. A military resolution isn't feasible. What else is there?

That perspective is perhaps emotionally satisfying but in the end it is counterproductive.

[exploited]

I already made concessions to Israel in there. Big ones. It has nothing to do with emotions and everything to do with an even exchange of compromises and strong action when needed.

[The Dharma Bum]

Well, keep beating your head against the wall. It's an unequal power dynamic so expecting some sort of compromise or fairness is unreasonable. They aren't going to do it.

It's like you didn't read any of what I said and just repeated what you think should happen.

[exploited]

If that is your attitude why even ask the question you did?

If there is no real desire to change or willingness to compromise than the entire exercise is futile.

[The Dharma Bum]

It's not a question of what my attitude is. I'm not speaking for Israel or saying I think it's right or anything like that. I'm pointing out that they are in a position where they don't have to do anything they don't want to.

You may as well ask the US to give it's land back to the Indians. We won't do it and who can force us? We have nukes. See what I mean?

Basically I'm asking for pragmatic resolutions, not flights of fancy.

[exploited]

Lol yeah okay.

[The Dharma Bum]

That land is gone to Palestinians. They need to accept that and move on.

[Duchifas]

[Dylan]

Thus giving the Israelis what they were hoping for when they began settlements.

[exploited]

I thought you wanted to find ways to end the conflict that are pragmatic. Hint: "Give up Palestinians" is not pragmatic lol