Nuclear prohibition has failed

[Kane]

[Aaron]

[Spider]

There's nothing really curiosity driven about seeking nuclear arms. Its a geopolitical fulcrum to gain more favorable leverage.

Its old tech, extremely well understood. There is limitless bad that can come of it, and basically no good. Best to put steel security doors under the sink if that's what it takes. With alarms. Maybe run an electric current through them.

[exploited]

[exploited]

[John Galt]

[Dobby]

China is also a sort of sub-super power. Bigger than all the regional powers but not quite a super power just yet.

[John Galt]

[exploited]

[John Galt]

the "thirteen nations" thing is made up. sure, they will possess them, but do not have launch codes or anything. maybe they can nuke their own country!

what am I basing it on? well, 5 in 1960, they were estimating 30 in 1980, so well, i don't know, have you ever seen a line graph? just going in a straight and extrapolated to today it's 72.5 estimated from their original estimates, but i'm pretty sure that it would be curved; the entire problem would become escalated

Currently 40 countries know how to make them, today. without putting any more money into research, they can just go make them.

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2004_11/BookReview

isreal and india were about to get nukes when the NPT came around, so really only pakistan and n. korea have got nukes since the NPT. that's actually quite extraordinary. the treaty was originally only 25 years. its now indefinite because it has worked so well

if the NPT is perceived to have failed, within a year of that perception taking hold there would be 40 nuclearly armed states. good thing you're the only one that thinks this exploited