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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

Postby Medius » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:56 pm

This should definitely not be allowable under our current system. If race is protected from these sorts of things, so should sexual orientation.

The only time I think a person should be free to deny service (under the current system) is where that service requires participation in something they disagree with on religious grounds. For instance, officiating a gay marriage. Much as we have allowed pacifists to avoid combat in the past.

I say "current system" as I don't think the ideal is to make these things illegal, the ideal is that they are rare enough that nobody cares. For the time-being, unfortunately, it appears they need to be illegal.

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

Postby uebermann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:01 pm

Yeah I mean a priest/preacher should be able to deny services as he/she deems fit. Just like now, if you and your SO go to a preacher and ask if they will marry you, they will usually do some kind of interview process and a bit of counseling and such. They can tell you no (straight or not) at any point. I don't think that should change, particularly through law.
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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

Postby phosphide » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:13 pm

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

Postby Medius » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:29 pm

Also, I will take this opportunity to officially apologize to Exploited. In a thread a while back, I'm certain I asserted that people who would refuse service to others was insignificant enough that protection was no longer warranted. My former home state has proven me absolutely wrong. So: You were right Exploited. I was wrong.

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

Postby The Comrade » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:43 pm

Not really. And even so, how would banning IRL trolling hurt freedom? How would it bring society backwards?
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Re: Discrimination in the name of religious freedom

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