The Second Bill of Rights

[Spider]

[gla22]

[exploited]

Dude, the entire reason Western companies moved off-shore is cheap labor that isn't organized and has no real rights. That is exactly the reason we even do business there, not some altruistic or even symbiotic relationship. Hell, even now, business interests aren't content with what they have... Now they are deliberately sabotaging labour here, by gutting unions, by slashing worker safety and rights programs, etc.

It isn't the US. It is the entire Western world.

And comparing Western industrialization to what is happening now is absurd. They aren't the same thing at all. Further, people clearly haven't asked what would happen to our economy if standards were raised to an acceptable level - hint: our lifestyle wouldn't be possible, which is exactly what I've been arguing all along.

[The Comrade]

so an american is morally culpable every time the chinese government executes a dissident? or they work one of their peasants into the ground?

[gla22]

[The Comrade]

so they aren't to blame they're just responsible for it.

that makes no sense whatsoever.

[gla22]

[The Comrade]

we dont allow it to happen. there is literally nothing we can do about it. even if we weren't buying cheap shit from china, they would still treat their citizens like garbage. and you think it's a comparable situation between south africa and china?

it's amazing how you guys become peter singer when it's convenient for you.

[gla22]

Yes somewhat comparable. And if there were tariffs against Chinese goods and a divestment movement against companies that profited from cheap Chinese labor then there would be a response by either the Chinese government or the employers.

[The Comrade]