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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

Postby Dylan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:36 pm

Lol. Nvm.
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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

Postby Indy » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:06 pm

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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

Postby Nolidor » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:16 pm

Leave it to anti-intellectual neocons to tolerate an ad that selectively critiques the legal system in the name of women. Someone said that another got punched in the face. Hearsay much?

After all the criticism liberals and Democrats get for soundbyting, give me a break. We have no idea what actually took place in the proceedings of those cases. For all intents and purposes, there could have been a married woman who got caught cheating with some black or Hispanic man, and after the man was interfered from leaving, he was provoked into punching a woman in the face and the GOP is trying to defend racism.

Great. Just great.

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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:25 am

both sides of the false political dichotomy exist solely to convince people of the rightness of things that run counter to their own interests. arguments as to why we should continue the unsustainable path of industrial militarism emanate from both sides of that synthesis of ideas

there are no good guys or bad guys in any of that crap, only a need for strict regulation and severe punishment for those whose actions create a situation of disenfranchisement for others

see, we are applying the social pressure to the wrong portion of society, if we want to actually solve any of our issues we need to solve our problem of inadequate governance and lack of real accountability at the highest level of society

that is the problem that US media is designed to obscure

the bottom line is that no individual human can handle the psychological pressures that accompany having great power over others. Until that factor is removed from the equation and true democratic franchise occurs human society will be plagued by the so-called "human condition", which is really nothing more than the result of the self serving decisions made by people in positions of great power, without any sort of true accountability to the people whom those decisions affect
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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:07 am

What it comes down to is this:

Americans hate freedom, except when it comes to what they perceive in relation to their own individual freedom

We are developing a social regime is equal parts skinner box and panopticon, far worse than anything imagined by the social commentators of the past.

The purpose of all this is to literally desocialize humans so they can accept the dehumanization and mechanization inherent in industrialized production.

So all the fine talk about individualized "family values" from the right, and socialized "community values" from the left is really bullshit to avoid talking about a system that sabotages both viewpoints and creates a psychological state in which an individual will accept becoming an expendable cog in the machine.

Instead of altering society to accommodate humanity, we are attempting to alter humanity, using social conditioning and drugs, to accommodate industrialized production and exploitation by the elite class.

The result is a broken mess. Now that we can scientifically understand the factors that create this mess, we should use our power to correct them. Instead of teaching people that intelligence and thinking is for "nerds" we need to teach them to use their cognitive abilities properly to affect the environment positively and in the process become a nation of doers instead of a nation who sits by and watches TV as small number of psychopaths destroy the f**k planet with their obsession for power and wealth.

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Re: Conservatives hate "conservative" values...

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