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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby exploited » Wed May 07, 2014 11:58 am

Yes, minority members have a great deal of power, because they have the capacity to cause the government to fall by withdrawing support (this is why Ontario is going to the polls in June, as a side note). This is why they have been given so many extremely powerful positions - to vest them in the government.

It is a power-sharing agreement with veto power given to Svodoba, in a time where the government failing would be catastrophic.

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby John Galt » Wed May 07, 2014 12:00 pm

at best you can say a minority in the government are thought to be fascists.

this is contrasted with "the government is fascist", which is something putin apologists/people that don't know anything about ukraine other than what putin apologiusts have told them say

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby exploited » Wed May 07, 2014 2:40 pm

At best I can say that one of the largest parties in the country, that controls agriculture, defense and the legal apparatus of the state (literally the most important cabinet positions), as well as the second most powerful position in the country, is fascist. That they exercise enormous power due to the coalition government, which NATO and the EU previously condemned and warned against, because of their anti-Semitism and xenophobia.

Your position is laughable.
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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby exploited » Thu May 08, 2014 5:38 pm

They redid the party in the same way that Hitler redid his party. Like now, a bunch of historically blind idiots decided that gaining power would moderate them... Of course that didn't work out in Germany, nor will it work out in Ukraine.

Five of those points you admit to xenophobia, another two are xenophobic but you just decide to call them something else, and another two or three are straight out of the economic model proposed by Nazis... Who, I might add, are growing in power all over Europe.

They do control the government, because they can bring it down at any time. It is impossible for any other coalition to form (if you consider actual policies and what is possible to agree with domestically). They control every important post in the country. So yeah... That is one hell of a terrible checkmate.
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