Prisons are barbaric and obsolete

[John Galt]

outcasts commit crimes but so do other people, so no, it's not

asfor the OP, punishment is the only way to treat them like a human, meaning, respecting their choices. in a punishment system, you are held responsible for your actions (your actions are respected). in therapy, the goal is to prevent harm not to place responsibility. meaning it's more important to stop them from doing it in the future then to hold them responsible for what they have done. in other words, it doesn't hold anyone responsible for anything, so you're treating them like a puppy not a human. and what happens when you don't put their nose in it? yeah. they do it again.

the whole jail for everything that wedo is not good, but punishment is necessary. i'm a fan of whipping them bloody instead for petty crimes, as well as public stock humiliation. jail and death reserved for the heinous ones. note: jail (responsibility for your choice) is not dehumanizing, treatment (which does not respect their choices anddoes not hold them responsible) on the other hand, is

[Philly]

[John Galt]

if they were found guilty and then received no punishment yes

[broken robot]

[John Galt]

[The Dharma Bum]

there's no right to punishment it's just something we've taken upon ourselves as a wholly ineffective and misguided way to control society

[The Dharma Bum]

if society has a right to harm it's constituents as a "punishment" then it certainly also has a right to be racist, impose religion, allow slavery etc

this is part of the baggage that we are trying to jettison, in other words

[Philly]

I dunno tho Galt. If I was broke and had an opportunity to steal a large sum of money, id probably do it if the risk was whipping but I'd be detered by prison.

[The Dharma Bum]

[John Galt]