Are so called "Welfare States" so bad?

[eynon81]

[jimmyz]

Jimmy is like beer pong

[The Comrade]

[Philly]

[fstarcstar]

Philly,

I said having 15 linebackers total on the team, not the field. I currently coach football, step your game a bit here and understand basic principles.

And again, I'm still right that football is more individualistic. If you don't have a good quarterback you lose, period. That in itself is entirely independent and individualistic. You can't tell me its a team when you have 11 guys who do 11 different things and are entirely dependent on 1 guy. I get they work together, but he said soccer was more individualistic, and it isn't because football is literally 11 individual players on individual tactics who can't do more than 1 position. Some can, but most can't and definitely not in the professional leagues. In soccer, all players can do every single position, they can all score, they can all move around and take the spot of someone else. Its not individualistic at all because each of them need to have the same skills, that's team based. Hell, lineman get a penalty if they move down the field too far Some team effort there, that's more individualistic than most other sports.

You lose, good day sir.

[Philly]

You're not applying logic here. The premise behind team work is different people doing different tasks for a common goal. A sport where everyone can do everything means that one or two superb players can carry you to victory. Thats more individualistic than a sport where no one can accomplish anything unless the guys in the other positions are executing their role.

[eynon81]

[The Comrade]

sounds like a bear nightclub

[eynon81]

[eynon81]