Ok, so this is where we are at right. Occupy pointed out faults in the current western socio-economic system, and in doing so 'they' achieved something by altering the dialogue on it?
Would you contest that com or zeugma?
The Occupy movement, out of steam?
Re: The Occupy movement, out of steam?
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Re: The Occupy movement, out of steam?
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Re: The Occupy movement, out of steam?
by Boris Johnson » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:44 am
It's very bumper stickery at best anyway.
"I want corporations out of the government and I want people back in"- ok... which means? how do you stop money influencing politics? A giant zeppelin fleet that hunts down lobbyists with harpoons?
"I want peace rather than militarisation"-great, if only geopolitics of being a superpower could be based on hugs.
"I want the top wealthiest Americans to be taxed higher and that to be put on education"-says the obviously self interested humanities student. Also MOAR MONEY EDUCATION NOW, has worked terribly in Britain.
"I want economic justice"-awesome?
"I want to be able to speak my voice without jeprodising my job"- well context seems important here. I'd love to be able to constantly rant to people about how old people should be put in camps after the crystal we surgical implant in their hands turns black at 45 whilst I get paid to process unemployment benefit claims, but hey fascist employers, say i'm paid to shut my mouth and work.
"I want a greater regulation of the banks and the markets"- great! actually making some sort of policy based point, 'greater' is still critically vague though. So what? Put limits on the number of credit default swap's that can be traded at anyone time?
"I want my kids to have a job and healthcare"-again, pretty unobjectionable stuff. how go about acheieving both jobs and healthcare with the U.S's economic situation being what it is, not exactly easy to even to begin to answer. Just print shit loads of money?
"I want true democracy for the 99% of us who don't have it anymore"-yeah its all been downhill since we stopped voting by putting little metal disks in a giant box in the agora.
"I want corporations out of the government and I want people back in"- ok... which means? how do you stop money influencing politics? A giant zeppelin fleet that hunts down lobbyists with harpoons?
"I want peace rather than militarisation"-great, if only geopolitics of being a superpower could be based on hugs.
"I want the top wealthiest Americans to be taxed higher and that to be put on education"-says the obviously self interested humanities student. Also MOAR MONEY EDUCATION NOW, has worked terribly in Britain.
"I want economic justice"-awesome?
"I want to be able to speak my voice without jeprodising my job"- well context seems important here. I'd love to be able to constantly rant to people about how old people should be put in camps after the crystal we surgical implant in their hands turns black at 45 whilst I get paid to process unemployment benefit claims, but hey fascist employers, say i'm paid to shut my mouth and work.
"I want a greater regulation of the banks and the markets"- great! actually making some sort of policy based point, 'greater' is still critically vague though. So what? Put limits on the number of credit default swap's that can be traded at anyone time?
"I want my kids to have a job and healthcare"-again, pretty unobjectionable stuff. how go about acheieving both jobs and healthcare with the U.S's economic situation being what it is, not exactly easy to even to begin to answer. Just print shit loads of money?
"I want true democracy for the 99% of us who don't have it anymore"-yeah its all been downhill since we stopped voting by putting little metal disks in a giant box in the agora.
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Re: The Occupy movement, out of steam?
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Re: The Occupy movement, out of steam?
by The Dharma Bum » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:08 pm
chymical is the Emmanuel Goldstein of PCF 
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