Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelter

[Ben Huh]

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"Hamas just made a really good proposal to Israel, basically gives them 10 years of peace in exchange for really modest concessions, concessions that are really nothing more than what is already expected under the Geneva Conventions."

"I don't blame Israel for rejecting it. f**k Hamas always uses tunnels. AND LOOK AT EXPLOITED HE IS TRYING TO JUSTIFY HAMAS MURDERS BASED ON PAST ISRAELI ACTIONS."

lolwut

I have never seen so many clear examples of people engaging in doublethink, ever.

[Ben Huh]

That's your style. You defend Palestinian actions by proclaiming "Israel does it too" as your main defense. Really? No. Both are in the wrong on several things, don't rescind punishment for Palestinians simply because you support their plight. They've used children to bomb Israeli civilians, assassinated Israeli leaders, etc. they have to be held to that.

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So, let's do a summary of everything we've learned in this thread:

1. Israel shouldn't agree to a ten year ceasefire with incredibly reasonable terms, because Hamas has done bad things in the past. Simultaneously, it is wrong to talk about what Israel has done in the past, because that justifies murder (or something).

2. Israel isn't illegally occupying Palestine even though it doesn't adhere to it's legal obligations, imposed not only by the UN, but by it's own Supreme Court.

3. You guys are "neutral," but insist that Palestine capitulate totally, on the grounds that Israel is stronger, in large part because it has received billions of dollars in military aid from your own government.

4. Nonviolence is needed, but it is okay for israel to murder 20 unarmed, non-violent protestors engaged in civil disobedience.

Am I missing anything?

[The Comrade]

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[The Comrade]

[Ben Huh]

1. I've condemned Israel for what they've done in the past, so there goes that point haha

2. ...because the occupation isn't illegal. Both your sources recognized the occupation and its legality.

3. That's Saz's argument. Mine is that both should stop the bullshit and come to terms.

4. Only you have excused murder, as it was justified in the Palestinian struggle. Plain murder is never justified.

Mod edit. -u
The grand champ caught the feels.

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[Saz]