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Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelter

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby Saracen » Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:54 pm

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby Saracen » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:01 pm

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:32 am

That's all true and it's an unfortunate situation when civilians are getting hurt or killed. But trying to convince Israel and the world is a slow process that probably won't work.

What can be done to save lives now? That's got to be the objective. Instead the objective is the same on both sides, ie "get what you want using the lives of the Palestinian civilians as bargaining chips".

I understand that the militants will stay and fight to the end but can we not at least move the women and children to the US? I'm sure there are plenty of men who don't want to fight either, as well.

That seems the most reasonable course of action to me.

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:02 am

That is no more politically feasible than convincing Israel and Hamas to stop harming civilians.

1. Congress will not support this.
2. Neither will the president.
3. Hamas will flip out and do God knows what to any Palestinians who show support for this plan.
4. While the average Palestinian may not want to fight and die waging a war on the west, most of them have a strong distrust for western nations, especially America. They're not likely to believe we are taking them to safety.
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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:19 am

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:30 am

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby John Galt » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:33 am

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Re: Gaza death toll rises as Israel hits a disability shelte

Postby John Galt » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:37 am

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