Free will is definitely a myth. You're the product of genetics and environment. Full stop.
When you realize that it really becomes easy to not get mad at others. It's not their fault.
Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by The Dharma Bum » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:47 am
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:30 am
Ah yes. We can make choices but we can't choose our choices.
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Stratego » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:26 am
It could be just a case of mistaken identity of where the source of decision starts.
Before we knew the intricacies of the brain, people thought that the heart was the decision maker. And when we measure the physiological effects, we do see that activities in the heart correspond to certain actions and emotions. But when we look further, we see that there are activities in the brain that occur before the activities in the heart.
So for a long time, we thought that the brain is the decision maker. Maybe this simply suggests that free will starts somewhere else.
Before we knew the intricacies of the brain, people thought that the heart was the decision maker. And when we measure the physiological effects, we do see that activities in the heart correspond to certain actions and emotions. But when we look further, we see that there are activities in the brain that occur before the activities in the heart.
So for a long time, we thought that the brain is the decision maker. Maybe this simply suggests that free will starts somewhere else.
Sigmund Freud defined four parts of a psyche; the id, the ego, the superego and the stratego. The Stratego being the highest form of morality and scientific thinking.
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:32 am
Like the universe has a collective free will?
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by The Dharma Bum » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:41 am
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Stratego » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:47 am
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Sigmund Freud defined four parts of a psyche; the id, the ego, the superego and the stratego. The Stratego being the highest form of morality and scientific thinking.
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Philly » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:48 am
go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: Sam Harris: The Delusion of Free Will
by Professor » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:22 am
So, we in the US are not responsible for our choice in becoming the huge evil that is plaguing the world (as mentioned in the "Insouciance" thread)? Good to know.
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