The World Is Doomed By Western Insouciance

[The Dharma Bum]

That's all a product of YOUR inner dialogue.

All I ever said about other cultures is that we don't have a right to pre-emptively attack people, or to exploit them economically.

that's what you really hate

[Lobster]

Yeah, of course, it's all in my head. It's not plastered all over your post history in this forum. What's the name of this thread again, you hypocritical lying piece of shit? How dare I not self-flagelate about how the "West" is responsible for all the ills on the planet. Tell me more about how Al Qaeda and all other extremist, religious militia groups are obviously just freedom fighters who's sole goal is to evict the evil capitalist colonialists from their lands. That they are violent and authoritarian theocracy proponents who overwhelmingly target their "own" people is merely a product of the colonialist capitalist West. There are no analogues to anything like it in their entire history.

[The Dharma Bum]

lol

don't pop up an artery dude

[The Dharma Bum]

It's like this Lobster, you hate me because you think we are good and they are evil and I don't agree so I must be evil too.

But I don't deal in terms like "good" or "evil" in an absolutist manner. I realize they are relative terms. People like you and the people you like to call terrorists are the same thing because you look at everything in absolute terms and think that gives you the right to tell everyone what they can and cannot think or do. And if they resist, to kill them. THAT'S what's f**k up with the human race.

I believe f**k is a cross cultural phenomena. It exists in our culture and other cultures as well. That still doesn't mean that we have a right to intervene militarily or economically in the lives of others or that people shouldn't criticize the most influential political force on the planet.

If anything the scope of US influence makes objective analysis critical. You need to learn to take the bad with the good and not have a hysterectomy when you hear something you disagree with.

[Dylan]

I'm still chuckling at the idea of the US "demonizing" folks like the Taliban and Qadaffi.

Do you read the shit you post Dharma?

[Lobster]

If you mean violent theocrats, then yes I absolutely believe they are "evil". Detrimental in every way to the progression and life of their own people. Of course deconstructing arbitrary inherited mores is only for "white" people who are apparently mature enough to understand it. They should always be taken at face value and respected otherwise, as integral parts of a collective identity.
Ironically the existence of people who hold your kind of ideology is precisely why I believe the "western" form of governance is superior. You obviously have no f**k idea what attempting to apply the same logic from inside, say, a middle-eastern muslim culture entails. Your ethnocentrism is sickening. Pretending your judgement is objective while you calmly attempt to condemn millions of people to objectively terrible forms of governance under the cover of some sort of cultural relativism is just the cherry on the cake.

[The Dharma Bum]

[The Dharma Bum]

[Lobster]

How much time have you spent in the middle east or other muslim majority countries, exactly? How much time have you spent outside of the US at all? Just curious.

[The Dharma Bum]

do you think violent bureaucrats are less evil than violent theocrats?


Is it the violence that makes them evil or is it their belief structure that does it? Because if it the violence how are we any different?