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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

Postby Ben Huh » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:35 am

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

Postby Ben Huh » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:54 am

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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

Postby exploited » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:25 pm

It is true that various countries are willing to justify anything, and will use the law as a shield for their behaviour, even as they break it consistently.

I simply disagree that the solution to that reality is to walk away from international law. Instead, international law needs to be extended and enforced, and we in the Western world should take it seriously, and allow our leaders to be held to account.

Instead, we pass shit like the American Servicemembers Protection Act, or we refuse to ratify a treaty we agreed too, then use it as a weapon against weaker countries who have actually ratified it. That is a problem with our domestic political situation, not the laws governing war.
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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

Postby Ben Huh » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:37 pm

Where I disagree with you is that those laws are an extension of the nations that wrote them, as all laws are, and they are very, very flawed. There needs to be international law, but I do not think it needs to be as vast as you think it should. I am more than willing to let nations be themselves and interact with other nations. If they cross too many lines, the big stick gets brought out. More often then not there is no such a thing as clear cut good guys and bad guys in society when dealing with nations at war. A bunch of different groups of assholes fighting over some land neither of them really want, it just looks good on the national resume to have it. Like seriously, between Argentina and Britain, who really wants the Falklands? Israel/Gaza is sitting on a piece of land that is a shithole in terms of natural resources or anything else, but they'll commit acts of aggression towards one another to make sure they can call it theirs. Our founders did this shit too. Native Americans, what are they? This is America **== The Muslims run Jerusalem...start a crusade. This is human existence at it's most general of scales. Everyone thinks the way they live their life is best and we can't have other cultures achieving as much as ours is so let's bomb them and take their land. Hell, one of the first things to happen in the Bible is that humanity sins and then Cain kills his brother Abel. This is why I am a nihilist. Enjoy your life, make the most of it, but f*ck most of the rest. I protested here in MD in favor of Gay Marriage in our state and it passed. I did my part.
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Re: Drone use and redefining terms

Postby exploited » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:47 pm

I'm just not seeing a rationale here, especially considering the last sentence: "I did my part."

What I am explicitly arguing for is that the population of the West does it's part, by demanding that all people, Western or not, be held to the same standards and rules governing warfare. You are absolutely right to point out that isn't currently the case, but I haven't yet seen a compelling reason why I shouldn't support making it so.
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