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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

Postby Saz » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:30 am

And I guarantee you most jobs do not require you to have a internet speed above 150mbps. Maybe a handful do, like traders etc, but it's so small that it would be criminal to waste taxpayer money subsidizing their needs. The future is wireless.

I actually wonder what you would plan to do, or need to do, with anything over 150mbps. I just ran a speed test and streaming something in 1080p only uses like 10mbps. Even if every TV in the house was on and getting HD content, I would still have loads of capacity. Most americans don't even know or care what their internet speed is as long as netflix working properly.
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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

Postby exploited » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:45 am

The issue being that it's NOT an either-or proposition, and it is absolutely, 100% impossible for the cellular system to be expanded enough to cover off even a fraction of the data that would be transferred through it absent a wired connection. And for some reason you are talking about lasers as if that is actually commercially viable for anyone besides major institutions (hint: it's not). I mean you do realize how expensive wireless tech is?

So that leaves WiFI connections, which depend upon wired internet and simply broadcast the signal. Already one of the biggest growth industries in mobile tech is data offloading. Because total internet usage is expected to increase by 50% annually, and data usage is often quadruples year by year, the mobile industry is trying desperately to figure out hybrid WiFi-cellular standards, because it just isn't possible for them to handle the growth by knocking up towers.

You are aware that Galt is trolling right? His wireless suggestion wasn't actual serious.

In regards to demand, what you are asserting (exponential growth unlikely to happen) is in direct opposition to every tech expert on the planet. The potential uses for internet are truly endless. I'm surprised that, growing up in the time you did, you haven't realized that. Then again you might be young enough to have missed the dialup days and the perspective that gives people. Essentially, people with foresight have been fighting the "good enough" perspective for years. The internet is the single greatest technological achievement in human history, and some of us got to see it in it's infancy. It is a "meta tech," in that it changes literally every other tech it touches. Equivalent to finding out about electricity.

The idea that 4K is the end of how people will use it is really a completely unfounded assertion, with no basis in reality whatsoever. Really it is the modern day equivalent of saying "There is no reason why the average consumer will ever need a computer in his home."

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

Postby John Galt » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:51 am

you need 15mbps to stream a 4K show
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Re: Internet as Infrastructure

Postby Saz » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:10 pm

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