Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

[Indy]

It depends on how much you think indies/mods listen to the GOP smear machine and care if they have a problem with Biden's approach (which was the right one).

They can go that route, and then Biden can plaster Dick Cheney's mug all over his counter ads as the face of GOP foreign and military policy--because he still is--and that'd be interesting to see.

[Philly]

[Kane]

[Saz]

[Philly]

So you think Clinton, who is more unpopular than Obama, is more electable because she's distanced from Obama?

[Saz]

[Kane]

I don't think we're going to agree on anything from here on out so I'll just end by saying that I hope you're right regarding Biden/Warren if they run.

[Libertarian602]

I don't see how rolling out Darth Cheney would help Biden or Clinton one bit, since they both voted to authorize force in Iraq. They would be shooting themselves in the foot. Folks seem to forget how the whole "I voted for it before I voted against it" helped sink Kerry. The Rove smear machine didn't have to work to hard to beat him.

And, even though I personally like Biden better than Clinton, he's still a establishment DC politician. So I'd never vote for him, but I'd sure as f**k prefer him over a Clinton if the dems take the White House next year. If Biden takes the nomination, I'm not going to vote for any of the retards in GOP, unless it's the chick or black guy , or by some miracle the quasi libertarian, who's squaring off against Biden. If it's a Bush, I'm just going to vote third party again.

But then again, my vote doesn't count for much, since my state will probably go red next year anyway, and I'm apart of the maybe 2% that regularly votes third party.

[Philly]

Gallup stopped polling Cheney in 2010, but the last time they did his unfavorability was at 52%. Hillary Clinton is currently viewed unfavorably by 53%.

[Libertarian602]

Damn, I'd do some deep pondering if I was running around Cheney numbers.

But, I think the one thing I think Clinton detractors seem to forget, is how much bank she's got. We'd be kidding ourselves if we pretended that doesn't play a big factor.